Don't worry, this is spoiler free.
Wow. I really enjoyed Stargate Atlantis last night. It was called ARK.
The sets were amazing, and the special effects were the best I have seen on that show.
I am wondering if they filmed on a set that had already been used, because it was massive elaborate.
Great show, very back to your basics science fiction.
What did you all think of it?
RM
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Liked it alot. I really enjoy when they explore ideas in scifi, and not just shoot-em-ups. Atlantis is sometimes very navel-gazing, but that show really made me feel for the guy who lost everything, and the crash landing on the planet was one of the coolest I've seen since Firefly, or when Voyager crashed on that ice world.
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Whoa -- did not see that coming in tonights episode. Did anyone hear about this beforehand ?
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Wow is right. I wasn't very happy about that one. I really liked him. They should have had Rodney go.
I had heard that one character was going, but I wasn't expecting that at all.
I cryed :( and whats funny is I just tarted watching Atlantis and AWWW MAN! so so sad, Well he probebly has a "better job" WE WILL MISS YOU!
Quote from: moyer777 on June 01, 2007, 07:25:58 PMWow is right. I wasn't very happy about that one. I really liked him. They should have had Rodney go.
No way! Rodney's whining obnoxiousness is way too entertaining. He is a major reason I like the show. People like that can be really annoying in real space but they are funny as hell in TV space.
I found it curious how they have Major Sheppard qualified for Mensa but he won't participate and Rodney making a big deal about it. I let my Mensa membership expire after the first year, I'd stopped going to their brunches after a few months.
psik
I agree, Why kill Rodney? Rodney is awesome. He was soo funny in Sateda when he got shot in the butt. LOL
Oh yeah - forgot about that one. "I can't believe you SHOT me". No, I'm sure they pay David Hewlett a very nice salary for his role. I enjoy all the characters and their interactions. Rodney should have gone fishing with Beckett.
It was announced awhile ago that a new doctor would be coming on to SG: Atlantis (I believe the new doc will be played by Jewel Staite who played Kaylee on Firefly). I didn't really expect them to kill off Carson though. Thought he might just move back to Earth or something. But towards the end of this last show I suspected he might die saving the other guy's life. A tough episode to watch, but I still love the series.
I thought he would survive the explotion with some cuts and bruises or that a bad dream, That last part with Rodney Talking to him was sad, Dose anyone really die on that show? They all ascend almost, well more just be in people's dreams
Quote from: Q on June 02, 2007, 09:16:07 AMI agree, Why kill Rodney? Rodney is awesome. He was soo funny in Sateda when he got shot in the butt. LOL
You have to love a guy that can blow up an entire solar system for the sake of his ego.
ROFLNow that you mention it he does remind me of
Q.
I guess Q really was worse because he had real power.
psik
Hey I take great offense to that >:(
Me -> :tealc :blink <- You
Aw, come on!
Rodney just blew up a solar system by accident.
Can you imagine Rodney killing a young girl 'cause she wouldn't join the Q Continuum?
How many crewman were killed when Q introduced Picard to the Borg?
Q was really broken up about that.
:vampire
psik
You'll understand politics some day, Amanda Rogers is Safely in the continuum, no need to worry. I was acting on orders and I was potentially guarding humanity against a great danger. If Rogers was a hybrid between a Q and a human, she would not be able to control her powers and would probably kill many people before the continuum could stop her. If she managed to pass off her powers into the wrong hands as a human (most likely would have happened) the continuum would be in a real tough situation. It was in her and everyones best interest that she join the continuum.
Second of all, the federation would eventually meet the borg either way, me introducing them or me not introducing them. There still would have been blood shed. The federation has benefited from being introduced to the borg anyhow. Now picard has prepared humans against the borg with is knowledge of how to defeat them. How would voyager have survived getting home without knowledge of the borg? They would have likely lead the borg right to Earth without any warning. In a sense I did you a favor through blood and iron.
Finally if you were in my position you would harass humans too. After being everywhere and practically doing everything, existence becomes awfully dull. What would u do if u were extremely bored and you could entertain yourself by getting a reaction out of an easily annoyed person?
Hope that puts things in perspective Mr. Sock :P
Now back on topic before Rico moves this to the conversations section
Quote from: Q on June 02, 2007, 10:30:00 PMFinally if you were in my position you would harass humans too. After being everywhere and practically doing everything, existence becomes awfully dull. What would u do if u were extremely bored and you could entertain yourself by getting a reaction out of an easily annoyed person?
Hope that puts things in perspective Mr. Sock :P
ROFLMAO
I thought I was comparing two fictional characters, I didn't know I was talking to the actual
Q.
You will notice my handle is not
Mr. Spock even though I got called that when TOS was on the air. I did like the Evil Mr. Spock much better than the Uncle Tom Tom version. I like Ming the Merciless too.
(http://flashgordon.ws/images/ming3.jpg)
You will have to excuse me if I can't take Mr. Sock seriously. ROFL
psik
I'm a big Atlantis fan. I've got Season 1 on DVD with plans to collect Seasons 2 & 3. :biggrin You all are going to love the season finale! :jawdrop
When I first started watching Atlantis I didn't like it as well as SG-1 but it has grown on me. I'm still not all that fond of Teyla as I really think her character is a stretch. I'm glad they got rid of Ford as I always thought he was the weakest character on the show. I love Ronon! I'm sad to see Beckett leave but it sounds like good changes are coming. I know a lot of people don't like Torri Higginson as Weir but she is one of my faves. I also had a hard time adjusting to the John Sheppard character because he was much too like O'Neil in SG-1 and it seemed like they were trying to work what was a successful formula in one show into another. That said though, I have come to really love the show and find it as good and sometimes better than SG-1 but SG-1 will probably always be top banana for me no matter how many series Stargate eventuates into.
Kevin
I liked Ford. I don't mind that he was replaced with Ronan, but I'm severaly annoyed that Ford has been forgotten about. I'm convinced that the intent was for him to die in "The Hive," but they wanted to do it in such a way that allows them to bring him back if they want to. If they had killed him off on screen, at least we'd have resolution. Instead, we're just left wondering. :blink
I'm annoyed that Dr. Beckett was killed off and that Dr. Weir is being reduced to a recurring guest star. Both characters have been there from the beginning and help define the show, especially Weir. She is the heart of the series. However, I am thrilled that Carter is joining the cast. :biggrin
Really ? Carter is joining Atlantis ? Either she can't get work anywhere else or she just loves this sci-fi stuff. Will she be joining at the end of th SG-1 (if it does end sometime :) ). Wonder what that will mean for Rodney now that he is in a kind-a/sort-a serious relationship ? Wier will be a recurring role ? Uggghhhh...I thought her and Shepard were the strongest characters. I liked Ford but didn't really care for the direction they took with him.
I think we need a Family Guy/SG-1/Atlantis spoof. :D
Quote from: markinro on June 06, 2007, 07:45:36 AM
Really ? Carter is joining Atlantis ? Either she can't get work anywhere else or she just loves this sci-fi stuff. Will she be joining at the end of th SG-1 (if it does end sometime :) ). Wonder what that will mean for Rodney now that he is in a kind-a/sort-a serious relationship ? Wier will be a recurring role ? Uggghhhh...I thought her and Shepard were the strongest characters. I liked Ford but didn't really care for the direction they took with him.
I think we need a Family Guy/SG-1/Atlantis spoof. :D
Yea...Amanda Tapping had signed a two year contract at the begiining of season 10 and so has a year left to fulfil. She will be a recurring character from what I uderstand but will be in 14 episodes of Atlantis. And SG-1 is already finished, as far as the series goes, but they have two SG-1 movies coming out this fall. Season ten will be released on DVD in July. As for Rodney and Carter I guess we will find out soon enough as season 4 progresses. :P
Weir will still be on Atlantis but not as frequently. I suppose with Carter coming on board there is only so much budget the show can afford. ;)
Kevin
P.S. I didn't see till just now that Ricky said this would be spoiler free! Oops! I guess a moderator needs to change the header title and add SPOILERS to it.
Quote from: markinro on June 06, 2007, 07:45:36 AM
Really ? Carter is joining Atlantis ? Either she can't get work anywhere else or she just loves this sci-fi stuff. Will she be joining at the end of th SG-1 (if it does end sometime :) ). Wonder what that will mean for Rodney now that he is in a kind-a/sort-a serious relationship ? Wier will be a recurring role ? Uggghhhh...I thought her and Shepard were the strongest characters. I liked Ford but didn't really care for the direction they took with him.
I think we need a Family Guy/SG-1/Atlantis spoof. :D
Amanda Tapping had signed a contract to appear in an 11th season of SG-1 should it be produced. With SG-1 cancelled after Season 10, the producers decided to use the contract to bring her over to Atlantis. Amanda Tapping loves to guest star, but interviews suggest she's not thrilled about being a full time regular. I suspect this largely because she expected to be home with her kid for a while after SG-1 ended. Anyway, she will appear in 14 of 20 episodes for
Atlantis Season 4. She will be creditted as a series regular, not as a recurring guest star. Carter will not join the Atlantis Expedition in an episode of SG-1. SG-1 ended with Carter still a member of the team. She will join the expedition at the start of
Atlantis Season 4. This makes her role in the upcoming SG-1 movies a bit confusing. Will they be set before
Atlantis Season 4, or will they feature Carter joining the team temorarily for the movie's crisis? I suspect the McKay/Carter stuff will be toned down now that she will be there full time.
Weir will still be around. For the first half of the season (10 episodes), they plan to feature Weir in 4 episodes. For the second half of the season (10 episodes), they would like to bring Weir back for additional episodes, but they are unsure as to how many.
Would you like to know what Carter's role will be in Season 4? :)
Mark, Mark....I told you this awhile ago I thought. Tapping/Carter will become the new leader of the Atlantis mission. Weir will slowly be phased out - probably back to Earth, but that isn't clear right now. I feel bad for Torri who has done a good job with Dr. Weir. I really liked seeing her "off-duty" in the recent Atlantis episode out on the lunch "date." I hope they can find a way to bring her back on from time to time.
If you told me during a tag-team session of warcraft. You were safe blinking away and I was dying because I could not get mounted in time -- I'm sure I wasn't listening :)
Yeah, I thought she did a great job with Wier. Makes me nervous when they start changing the cast. I sometimes wonder how far they can take these series -- eventually there has to be peace in the galaxy.
Keep in mind this show is set in a different galaxy than SG-1 was.
I don't have any problem with the Ford or Ronon characters, but I really liked that scene in Hot Zone where McKay and Zelenka are playing this game with prime numbers and Ford gets in Zelenka's face saying, "Is this how guys like you get revenge for guys like me beating you up in high school?"
There is a certain amount of truth to the dumb jock vs inept nerd conflict.
What bugs me about Ford was where he frees Sheppard aboard the hive ship and says he got some enzyme with no explanation as to how. The last we saw him he was suffering withdrawl. I though magical escapes went out of style in the 50's. But that is the fault of the writers not the character.
psik
He probably caught a Wraith off guard, killed him, and harvested the enzyme.
I didn't know Rodney's sister (Kate Hewlett) is his sister in real-life. Neat
I'm a BIG Atlantis fan (go figure by my name) and I was gutted when they decided to cancel it. I have seasons one to five on my laptop and it keeps me sane, I think I only cried once and that was in season three when they killed of Carson (in the episode 'Sunday') and I balled like a baby. He was my favourite character, next to Weir.
I didn't particularly like it when they introduce Picardo/Woolsey into it as the new leader of the expedition but I can understand why what with Tapping doing my SG-1 orientated things but still, anyone else but him. Don't ask me who, I haven't thought that far.
The last episode was good if a little predictable, though it does give it scope to do 'Extinction', Hopefully we will see what happened to Weir and the Replicators that escaped.
I still think the last episode was a bit of stretch in terms of the way they 'suddenly' came up with the 'faster than hyperspace' drive but opinion seems to be that it was a massively compressed Season 6 arc so I guess I'm happier to see it in than out.
Atlantis did have flaws but probably no more or less than SG-1.
Why did everyone always live near the gate?
Did they ever check for an advanced civilisation over the horizon?
and so on...
Not everyone lived near the gate. There were colonies set up on the limited land masses on the planet.
And other technologically advanced civilizations probably wouldn't be all to impressed with the Wraith being awake, and that they annoyed the Replicators. They'd want to stay out of it than to be dragged in. I guess that if there was gonna be a season six, that would be explored.
Quote from: Feathers on July 09, 2010, 04:56:35 AM
I still think the last episode was a bit of stretch in terms of the way they 'suddenly' came up with the 'faster than hyperspace' drive but opinion seems to be that it was a massively compressed Season 6 arc so I guess I'm happier to see it in than out.
Atlantis did have flaws but probably no more or less than SG-1.
Why did everyone always live near the gate?
Did they ever check for an advanced civilisation over the horizon?
and so on...
It seemed that they lived near the gate in SG1 because they were always walking. I assumed that on Atlantis, the villages were farther than the gate. They did have transportation with the puddle jumpers.
That's true (and I've just remembered the episode where a prison colony was set around the gate for Wraith feeding - interesting form of capital punnishment).
I know that working within a TV budget is the real limitation to these sorts of things, I just never really got a sense of civiliation on a planetary scale in many of the places they visited.
(And now I'm knocking what is arguably one of my favourite franchises. I'll stop now!)
Mike - keep in mind just because colonies lived near the gate doesn't mean there was no one on the rest of the planet. It just means that's the first place any SG team would visit and have contact with. Plus, it's the same reason why big cities on Earth have certain key points, near water, key spots geographically and so on. I'd say if you have a Stargate nearby it would be a pretty good place to set up a town.
Quote from: Feathers on July 12, 2010, 07:12:13 AM
That's true (and I've just remembered the episode where a prison colony was set around the gate for Wraith feeding - interesting form of capital punnishment).
I know that working within a TV budget is the real limitation to these sorts of things, I just never really got a sense of civiliation on a planetary scale in many of the places they visited.
(And now I'm knocking what is arguably one of my favourite franchises. I'll stop now!)
It makes sense to me that most of the at least human populations in SG-1 would be near the gate because in our galaxy the Goa'uld populated the planets with humans for Earth with the Stargates, there for as colonization began on each planet by the Goa'uld it would originate around the Stargate.
And I think in Atlantis is makes sense that the people would also want to be farther away from the Stargates, because of course that's where the Wraith come from. Farther away from the gate the safer from the wraith.
Those are just my theories on it. I tend to over analyze these things...probably a little to much.
Quote from: Sheppard on July 15, 2010, 02:02:49 PM
It makes sense to me that most of the at least human populations in SG-1 would be near the gate because in our galaxy the Goa'uld populated the planets with humans for Earth with the Stargates, there for as colonization began on each planet by the Goa'uld it would originate around the Stargate.
And I think in Atlantis is makes sense that the people would also want to be farther away from the Stargates, because of course that's where the Wraith come from. Farther away from the gate the safer from the wraith.
Those are just my theories on it. I tend to over analyze these things...probably a little to much.
My question would be, did the Goa'uld populate planets by gate or by ship? I suspect the inference was that it was by gate but I think ships would make more sense for mass transport.
Of course, if they used ships they could have used other planets that didn't have gates and we see little evidence of that but equally, as we're relying on gate travel we're not necessarily going to those 'other' planets.
Thay might have populated by ship and then moved a gate there afterwards but then they have placed the gate near the population so we'd still be consistent with what the show portrays.
I love this sort of discussion!
The Goa'uld didn't make the gates. I assume they put populations there near gates to make it easy to show up to take new hosts. Sure, ships are cool, but gates are faster.
I remember early in SG-1 there was a lot about the mining of naqahdah and they would ship it through the gates so those civilizations would have to be near the gates. And I would think they'd populate planets using the gate system, it is fastest just to send people through across the galaxy instantly. Then they'd build the pyramids on the other side for the ships to land.