Caprica Gets Green Light
SCI FI Channel has given a green light for production to begin on Caprica, a two-hour backdoor pilot and Battlestar Galactica prequel from executive producers Ronald D. Moore and David Eick. Production is slated to begin in Vancouver, Canada, this spring.
Set 50 years before the events of Battlestar Galactica, Caprica follows two rival families--the Greystones and the Adamas --as they grow, compete and thrive in the vibrant world of the 12 Colonies. Enmeshed in the burgeoning technology of artificial intelligence and robotics that will eventually lead to the creation of the Cylons, the two houses go toe-to-toe.
"I'm thrilled with the chance to expand on the Galactica world and get deeper into the origins of the story we've been telling," Moore said in a statement. "It's also great to have a chance at doing a completely different kind of science fiction series, one that's even more character-oriented and doesn't rely on pyrotechnics to carry the story."
In his own statement, Eick said: "While Caprica will have its own personality, it will carry on Battlestar's commitment to pushing the boundaries of the genre, and we're thrilled that SCI FI has seen fit to giving us another opportunity to tell character-driven stories in challenging ways."
The fourth season of Battlestar Galactica kicks off on March 28 at 10 p.m. ET/PT with two back-to-back half-hour specials, with the first new episode premiering the following week, April 4, at 10 p.m.
That is AWSOME!!! As a fan of the original and Scifi series, I always wondered about how they got to the point where the cylon war started. I think they will be able to do a lot with this series....plus I was disappointed in this being BSG's last season...Now there's something to look forward to!!!!
Very cool news ! I can't wait to see what they come up with..
Caprica Very Different From Battlestar
David Eick and Ronald D. Moore, executive producers of SCI FI Channel's original series Battlestar Galactica, told SCI FI Wire that their upcoming prequel Caprica will be a markedly different series.
Eick compared it to the feature film American Beauty, while Moore referenced the TV soap opera Dallas.
"Caprica is a story that Ron Moore and I concocted with [co-executive producer] Remi Aubuchon, and we're casting as we speak," Moore said in an interview at SCI FI Channel's upfront presentation to advertisers in New York on March 18. "I'm very excited about that. If Battlestar Galactica is Black Hawk Down, I would say that Caprica is American Beauty. Caprica is all about the inner lives of the people on a planet and how their personal relationships as well as their professional relationships inform what will become the creation of the Cylons."
Moore, a former Star Trek writer and producer, said that Caprica is not a show along the lines of any Trek spinoff series. "It's a different animal altogether," he said in a separate interview. "Unlike those shows, which are all riffs on the same notion of what Star Trek was, Caprica is really a completely different kind of genre. We're trying to do something different."
Instead of Galactica's action-adventure space-based war show, Caprica will tell a story that takes place before any of the wars happened. "This is really more of a sci-fi Dallas," Moore said. "It's a political story, a family story. It's about the creation of the Cylons, and it's about a company. It's planet-based. It's very character-oriented, very serialized and very much about the characters. It's a whole different genre, and that's what makes it exciting."
Production will begin this spring on a two-hour backdoor pilot. Moore said he will be "very involved" with the pilot, but stressed that it's too soon to say whether he'd remain on board if SCI FI Channel gave the green light for a weekly Caprica show.
"If it goes to series, it kind of depends when that happens and what I'm doing," he said. "We'll just wait and see." --Ian Spelling
I found a link to this story at a BSG forum.
From io9.com via studio3audio at Ragnar Anchorage forum-
New Details Of Battlestar's Prequel: Cylons Came From Human Grief
As soon as people started describing Caprica, the Battlestar Galactica prequel, as "Dallas in space," it got a lot harder to take seriously. But the TV movie, which tells the story of the Cylons' creation decades before they rose up and wiped out most of the human race, may actually explore some interesting territory. It turns out the genesis of the Cylons wasn't ambition or greed, but grief. (I'm assuming this isn't an April Fools thing, but you never know.) Click through for details.
Originally, according to E! Online's Kristin Dos Santos, Ron Moore didn't intend to show the forebears of any Galactica characters in this spin-off. But he's apparently changed his mind — which could have something to do with the Sci Fi Channel's decision to greenlight the backdoor pilot — and now we'll see Bill Adama's father, Joseph. As you may have heard, Caprica is the story of attorney Joseph Adama and his relationship with the Graystone family.
Daniel Graystone is a computer genius, married to the unfaithful Amanda, a gifted surgeon. Their daughter, Zoe, dies in a suicide bombing by religious fanatics, including Zoe's boyfriend. Also killed in that bombing: Joseph Adama's wife and daughter.
Before Zoe dies, she installs the "rudimentary elements" of her personality and DNA into a computer, creating a digital twin called Zoe-A. After Zoe dies, her father uses that materials, along with soem stolen technology to create a robot version called Zoe-R. This is the "Cylonic Eve."
And then Joseph Adama works with Daniel Graystone to recreate his dead daughter as well. But he's "ethically appalled by the robot version of his dead [daughter], Tamara, and repents his actions." In his grief and remorse, Joseph grows closer to his nine-year-old son Bill.
As I said, I'm assuming this isn't an April Fools thing, but it could well be... The daddy/daughter stuff echoes some themes we've seen in Battlestar itself, particularly between Adama and Starbuck.
A link to the story HERE. (http://io9.com/374903/new-details-of-battlestars-prequel-cylons-came-from-human-grief)
And a link to the E! source story HERE (http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/detail/index.jsp?uuid=e1304fb7-b29d-4d3e-9873-d2230fcfc998&sid=rss_kristin&utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_kristin#commentstart)
The Story on E! online was published April 1st, which makes me kind of skeptical. But the writer posted another unrelated story that she tags as being an April fool's joke, while this one wasn't. I'm about 80% sure that this story is legit... I guess time will tell.
It looks like the Greystone/Adama information mentioned above might be pretty accurate. More information below, courtesy of i09. By the way;
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from io9:
Caprica:
The TV Addict got hold of the script for Battlestar Galactica's prequel TV movie Caprica, and spilled a ton of spoilers. From what I can make out of that blurry image of the script's first page, the movie starts with two boys amongst a bunch of other kids on a bus. A woman warns them that they're on Caprica now, and they should speak the common tongue, not their mongrel nonsense — but they don't understand what she's saying. (I'm guessing this is when Joseph Adama first comes to the planet Caprica and leaves behind his Tauron roots.)
Some of the story details are similar to the ones we've featured before. But there are some new details. Our artificial intelligence whiz, Daniel Graystone, invents something called the HoloBand, which is akin to Star Trek's Holodeck. Daniel is an inattentive husband and father, because he's worried his company is about to lose the big government contract for the robot super-soldier and the meta-cognitive processor, after billions of cubits in development costs.
Because Daniel is such a self-absorbed guy, his wife Amanda seeks comfort in the arms of his chief rival Tomas Vergis, who's a Tauron instead of a Caprican. And his daughter Zoey gets involved with the Soldiers of the One, a monotheistic cult that wants to drive out Caprica's many gods. And "Act One" ends with Zoey's boyfriend Ben carrying out his act of monotheistic terrorism, killing Zoey as well as wife and daughter of attorney Joseph Adams. (Admiral Adama's father.)
And that's when Joseph Adams and Daniel Graystone find each other, and start working on downloading their dead daughters' minds into new robot bodies. (And Zoey, the monotheist, becomes the first Cylon.) But after they succeed, Joseph and Daniel have opposite reactions and end up being bitter opponents. And here's the final scene of the TV movie, between Joseph and his son the future Admiral, according to the TV Addict:
JOSEPH
Our family will survive this, we're going to put our lives back together. Your mother is gone and Tamara is gone. They're not coming back.
Suddenly, without warning, tears begin to stream down William's cheeks. Joseph takes his son in his arms and they hold each other tight as Joseph struggles with his own emotions.
JOSEPH
I want you to know who you are, William. We come from a long, proud line of Tauron peasants who knew how to work the land and still stand proud. You're named after your grandfather, did I ever tell you that?
WILLIAM
No.
JOSEPH
He was killed in the Tauron uprising fighting for what he believed was the right of all the Children of Kobol — to live free. It's a good name William and you should wear it proudly. And our last name isn't Adams - I changed it when I arrived on Caprica.
(beat)
Our family name is... ADAMA and it's a good, honorable Tauron name.
SPOILER ALERT
According to EOnline, the two-hour Caprica pilot begins about 51 years before the destruction of the Twelve Colonies by the reappearing Cylon Fleet.
A computer whiz-kid named Zoe Graystone, portrayed by Alessandra Toreson, digitizes her identity, then dies but finds psuedo new life after her genius dad resurrects her computer image. Zoe becomes the first computer generated brain for the Cylons. One of BSG's key character's father, Joseph Adams (Bill's father), a lawyer played by "Jericho" actor Esai Morales, somehow becomes embroiled in the whole fiasco. Joseph's connections are both from a legal and emotional standpoint because, Joseph's wife and only daughter were killed by the same bomb blast that killed Zoe. All of these events allow the Graystones and the Adamas to have possibly been responsible for starting the First Cylon War.
Very exciting! This at least puts Adama out of the running for the final Cylon.
SciFi Channel Orders 'Caprica' Scripts
By MICHAEL HINMAN
Source: Chicago Tribune
Jul-14-2008
It's not exactly a series pickup, but things are looking good for the upcoming "Battlestar Galactica" prequel "Caprica."
The SciFi Channel has ordered two more scripts on top of the pilot, according to Maureen Ryan of The Chicago Tribune. The scripts are being written by Michael Angeli and Mark Verheiden, both former writers on BSG, as well as former writers assistant Ryan Mottesheard.
Some sources close to the show have told SyFy Portal in the past that they feel "Caprica" should actually launch as a series instead of a backdoor pilot, simply because the pilot -- which was written by executive producer Ronald D. Moore and Remi Aubuchon -- serves more as a setup for a series instead of being a standalone story that could lead to further episodes as successful backdoor pilots have done in the past.
The pilot has already completed filming, and is believed to be taking on a more 1950s feel with high technology, sort of what the movie "Gattaca" did back in the late 1990s.
Ryan did hint that there may be a chance that SciFi Channel could be announcing a series order of "Caprica" during next week's Television Critics Association press tour.
Of course, none of this has been confirmed by SciFi Channel, so until it is, it should be treated as any rumor would.
I hope this is true. Angela and I need another TV series to get excited about and chat up on the show! :)
Caprica Promo Now Live
A promotional trailer for SCI FI Channel's upcoming prequel movie Caprica has gone live on SCIFI.COM. The trailer is the footage screened to the Television Critics Association press tour on July 20 and sets up the universe of the prequel to SCI FI Channel's original series Battlestar Galactica.
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=57977
Dude.....sweeeeet. ;)
That is very cool!
Definitely looks good. I think this may be popular because it looks nothing like a sci fi show. The only thing I really noticed were the triangles on the 'tennis' court. It's going to be an even more character driven show then Galactica I think.
Sky One Picks Up "Caprica"
Sky One has acquired exclusive rights to air the new "Battlestar Galactica" prequel from Ron Moore and David Eick titled "Caprica" for the channel's new fall schedule in the United Kingdom.
"Caprica" will star Esai Morales ("NYPD Blue," "Jericho"), Paula Malcolmson ("Lost," "Deadwood") and Eric Stoltz ("Pulp Fiction," "Triangle"). [pictured]
Other U.S. shows for Sky One this fall will include the popular animated series "Futurama," "The Simpsons" and Kiefer Sutherland's FBI thriller "24."
Sci Fi Channel has greenlit Caprica, the much-touted prequel to the hit series Battlestar Galactica.
According to Variety, Caprica will star Eric Stoltz, Esai Morales, Paula Malcomson and Polly Walker, and will be set 50 years prior to Battlestar Galactica's seminal attack on human civilization by those dreaded 'droids the Cylons. The family-drama-themed series will focus on the Earthlike planet of Caprica as two rival families deal with, among other topical issues, the broader implications of their society's emerging artificial intelligence technology sector.
Having already produced a two-hour backdoor pilot, Sci Fi is aiming for an early 2010 bow for the series, with production starting around the middle of next year, probably in Vancouver, where both Battlestar Galactica and the spinoff's pilot were shot.
" 'Battlestar Galactica' was absolutely our flagship show. It put us on the map and helped transform the perception of the network," said Sci Fi prexy Dave Howe, noting that the cabler hopes to draw a broader audience to a series it sees as more compelling family drama than "space opera."
"We want people to come to this who have never heard of 'Battlestar Galactica,' " he added. "I think, because ('Galactica's') backdrop was space and spaceships, there was a barrier to entry for some viewers. 'Caprica' has none of that. It's an intense family drama set on an Earthlike planet, in the near future, speaking to a lot of the ethical dilemmas that we as a human race are going to have to face very shortly."
There is actually a teaser trailer over at SCI-Fi.com for Caprica. Doesn't look bad at all. I love the lead actors too.....great choices
Caprica Premiering on DVD and Digital Download
Source: Universal Studios Home Entertainment
February 5, 2009
Universal Studios Home Entertainment has announced that "Caprica" will premiere on DVD April 21st. Here is the official announcement:
"Caprica," the highly anticipated prequel to "Battlestar Galactica," will enjoy its world premiere exclusively on DVD on April 21, 2009 from Universal Studios Home Entertainment. In a groundbreaking move sure to delight fans of the long-running television phenomenon, the feature-length prequel will be available on DVD as a limited-edition uncut and unrated version before the series' broadcast premiere on the SCI FI Channel in 2010. "Caprica" is executive produced by Ronald D. Moore and David Eick ("Battlestar Galactica") and Remi Aubuchon ("24"). Exclusive bonus features that take viewers behind the scenes of the creation of Caprica make this DVD a landmark event for any fan of "Battlestar Galactica." The film will also be available at selected online destinations for digital download transactions.
As "Battlestar Galactica" wraps its gripping final season on SCI FI on March 20, 2009, "Caprica" begins a brand new epic saga that continues the franchise's commitment to thought-provoking storytelling and extraordinary characters. Set over 50 years before the events of "Battlestar Galactica," "Caprica" is a world at the peak of its power, grappling with new science and technologies and the issues they create. The series will star Golden Globe nominee Eric Stoltz ("Mask," "Pulp Fiction"), Esai Morales ("Jericho," "NYPD Blue"), Paula Malcomson ("Deadwood," "ER") and Golden Globe® nominee Polly Walker ("Cane," "Rome") in a story laced with passion, intrigue and family conflict.
"We are thrilled to take the groundbreaking step of offering the world-premiere of the 'Caprica' feature-length extended pilot episode on DVD prior to the new series' television debut," said Hilary Hoffman, Senior Vice President, Brand and Digital Marketing for Universal Studios Home Entertainment. "This innovative distribution model will serve to satisfy 'Battlestar Galactica' fans' appetites for a new content while building excitement for the franchise's next great adventure."
"Ever since fans first caught wind of the 'Battlestar Galactica' prequel 'Caprica,' they have been eagerly following its development," said Mark Stern, Executive Vice President, Original Programming for SCI FI & Co-Head Original Content, Universal Cable Productions. "We wanted to give them a chance to see the pilot in its original form and experience the prequel to the BSG story while that series' finale was still ringing in their ears. It also affords the creative team an unprecedented chance to get viewers feedback before production on the 'Caprica' series begins this summer."
"If 'Battlestar Galactica' offered us a way to shatter the conventions of space opera, 'Caprica' will be a show which will challenge the conventions of science fiction storytelling as a whole," said Ronald D. Moore, Executive Producer/Writer.
"Part sweeping soap, part meditation on the dangerous moral ramifications of artificial intelligence, this is a truly unique opportunity to continue telling stories which will be as daring and shocking as the best of 'Galactica' -- and yet will be altogether different from 'Galactica,'" said David Eick, Executive Producer.
Universal Cable Productions will begin production on the "Caprica" series in the summer of 2009 in Vancouver for a 2010 television premiere on the SCI FI Channel. The DVD of "Caprica" is priced at $26.98 S.R.P. Preorder close is March 3, 2009.
BONUS FEATURES:
Feature Commentary with Director Jeffrey Reiner and Executive Producer/Writer Ronald D. Moore and Executive Producer David Eick
Deleted Scenes
Video Blogs
What the Frak is Caprica?
The Director's Process
The V Club
The Birth of a Cylon
SYNOPSIS
Set 50 years before "Battlestar Galactica," "Caprica" follows two rival families and their patriarchs - Daniel Graystone (Eric Stoltz) and Joseph Adama (Esai Morales) - as they compete and thrive in the vibrant world of the 12 Colonies, a society recognizably close to our own. Enmeshed in the burgeoning technology of artificial intelligence and robotics that will eventually lead to the creation of the Cylons, the two houses go toe-to-toe blending action with corporate conspiracy and sexual politics.
What does preorder close on March 3, 2009 mean?? Is this some kind of limited edition release???
Quote from: Rico on February 05, 2009, 03:05:50 PM
What does preorder close on March 3, 2009 mean?? Is this some kind of limited edition release???
Quote...the feature-length prequel will be available on DVD as a limited-edition uncut and unrated version before the series' broadcast premiere on the SCI FI Channel in 2010.
Sounds like a cunning plan to both generate capital for the series and gauge fan interest. I'm all for it! I'm planning on ordering a copy. I have a feeling that it will be readily available after the "Limited Release", though. On ebay, if nothing else.
I dunno. I kinda feel like this will take away from the anticipation and excitement of the tv premiere. Just my opinion, especially if it actually IS limited.
I am looking forward to this series
Well they have this website: http://www.capricadvd.com/ (http://www.capricadvd.com/) But I can't find a way to preorder this anywhere yet. And I really don't want to sign up to get on some Universal studios mailing list. I already feel like this is a bit of a con job.
Great that it's coming but such a long wait until the series starts...
Sounds like a good DVD though. Perhaps we will have some webisodes to keep us going?
Either way the premise to this series sounds interesting. I was a bit worried when they announced the new series would be a prequel but I think it sounds very interesting especially the A.I. aspects.
I want to see mechanical Cylons that talk in that robotic voice! Always loved that.
by your command! :cylon
Hope this will help me through my BSG withdrawal...
Wow it does look very interesting!
Well, just watched it. Pretty interesting and very different from BSG. :cylon
[spoiler]It basically is dealing with the early days of Cylon creation, but I'm kind of confused by a few things. It's set about 58 years ago on Caprica. I guess the big Cylon War is still a few years away. The main point is to create life - or more appropriately bring life back. This could be a very different TV series with a lot of moral implications to consider. A little warning, the early part of this has a fair amount of nudity and violence. Overall, it was very interesting and makes me want to see more. But, I have a feeling that it isn't going to be for everyone. And many BSG fans even may not go for it.[/spoiler]
Nothing I haven't heard already in that spoiler tag. Anyone who was expecting another BSG hasn't been paying attention.
I saw it earlier today and I really enjoyed it. I think that they have about 20 years before the cylon war begins, but I like it a lot. I think it's interesting to see some of the concepts that are going on and what happened to technology in the time after the war as compared to before it.
Saw it last night; awesome pilot! Enjoyed the way it approached the question " What constitutes life?", and the depth it added to the BSG universe was great.
Some points that really stood out for me:
[spoiler]-The use of the McCreary tune "A Good Lighter" during the scene with Joseph & young Bill Adama. It instantly took me back to the scene from the BSG episode "Hand Of God", when Adama gives his lighter to Lee and tells him how it used to belong to his father.
-The background information on the Taurans and their place in colonial society
-The scene with Joseph & his 'daughter' in the VR program. A very chilling scene, especially because her reaction seems exactly like how I'd imagine a person in that situation would feel if it could happen in real life.
-Seeing the 'first' Cylon, and finding out the roots of the Cylon religion. [/spoiler]
Overall, a very promising start to what I hope will be a long-lived series. :)
Finally got around to watching my DVD. Not bad overall.
[spoiler]
The only thing that didn't really sit well with me was the last scene with Zoe's voice coming out of the Cylon. Just struck me as a bit out of place.
However, even with this episode, you can see where the Cylon religion stems from. It's funny how some small trivial detail can have such huge ramifications.
[/spoiler]
Just ordered the DVD...can't wait to watch it! :)
Does anyone know when this will show on Sci-Fi?
finally got to see Caprica on the SyFy website.
Ok. Compelling, great story line, cool technology and even cooler if you are a die hard fan of the original and the reboot. Pretty darn cool. I liked the way it was filmed. Not a kid friendly show, but it seems like it will be a great series.
I too am looking forward to this one.
KatzeKitty and I watched the pilot last weekend and I think we both liked it. The pacing was a bit slow, but the plot still kept me interested. I'm sure we'll be tuning in for the duration. :cylon
Anyone else have an opinion?
Quote from: ChadH on January 26, 2010, 10:30:35 AM
KatzeKitty and I watched the pilot last weekend and I think we both liked it. The pacing was a bit slow, but the plot still kept me interested. I'm sure we'll be tuning in for the duration. :cylon
Anyone else have an opinion?
Yes. I like it, and I'm looking forward to the new episodes. The writing / scripting appeals to me, as do the characters. There is a TON of material to be explored by the series, and I plan to do my little part to promote the show.
That show looks like it will go far, maybe not 5 seasons but defiantly far. I love how...
[spoiler]
The first Cylon is zoe
Adama is a kid (kinda young and annoying)[/spoiler]
and I like how they did how it all happened
I hate to admit it but I'm a little confused as to the timeline for the Caprica series and BSG, mostly because it's been too long since I've seen the latter.
Kind of trying to figure out how the final five cylons fit into this whole picture. I'm under the (possibly mistaken) impression that they had something to do with the development of the Cylon race in the 12 Colonies after arriving there from the wrecked Earth.
Liking the character of Dr. Graystone. IMO Eric Stoltz is a good fit for this particular role. He's been one of my favorites since the film "Killing Zoe" back in 1993 and can carry a quietly intense, conflicted character really well.
As chadH said, we'll keep watching.
But,
[spoiler]who in their right mind would put a temperamental, bitchy, rebellious teenage girl's persona into a machine designed for killing? no wonder the human race was doomed.[/spoiler]
~kk
Quote from: KatzeKitty on January 28, 2010, 01:17:22 PM
As chadH said, we'll keep watching.
But,
[spoiler]who in their right mind would put a temperamental, bitchy, rebellious teenage girl's persona into a machine designed for killing? no wonder the human race was doomed.[/spoiler]
~kk
[spoiler]He didnt have other robotic bodies lying around, so he went with the killer machine that will end up destroying Caprica, who knew[/spoiler]
I wonder if [spoiler] Zoe's Mother is the initial cause of her/the Cylons turning against humanity? She has outed her as a terrorist now. [/spoiler]
It is interesting. How many years is this before the Cylons attack? I wonder if they will try to cover the entire time period. So, bascially Zoe found a way to "download" her conscience into a computer. Sounds pretty advanced for a teenager. I have to think she got some help. I hope this will not be a time-travel, self-fulfilling prophecy thing.
Quote from: ChadH on January 27, 2010, 09:54:24 AM
I hate to admit it but I'm a little confused as to the timeline for the Caprica series and BSG, mostly because it's been too long since I've seen the latter.
Kind of trying to figure out how the final five cylons fit into this whole picture. I'm under the (possibly mistaken) impression that they had something to do with the development of the Cylon race in the 12 Colonies after arriving there from the wrecked Earth.
Liking the character of Dr. Graystone. IMO Eric Stoltz is a good fit for this particular role. He's been one of my favorites since the film "Killing Zoe" back in 1993 and can carry a quietly intense, conflicted character really well.
I wonder if we will ever meet the original humans the 12 were based upon. For example, Col. Tighe.
Quote from: sheldar on February 01, 2010, 07:32:48 PM
It is interesting. How many years is this before the Cylons attack? I wonder if they will try to cover the entire time period. So, bascially Zoe found a way to "download" her conscience into a computer. Sounds pretty advanced for a teenager. I have to think she got some help. I hope this will not be a time-travel, self-fulfilling prophecy thing.
Yeah right Baltar will pop out of no where
Quote from: dataskatt on February 01, 2010, 06:38:26 PM
I wonder if [spoiler] Zoe's Mother is the initial cause of her/the Cylons turning against humanity? She has outed her as a terrorist now. [/spoiler]
I think you may have something there, although I believe Dr. Graystone is also going too play a pivotal role in starting the Cylon War(other than actually building the first centurian). His character reminds me of Baltar before the the destruction of the colonies. Ruthless and maybe a little too quick to justify his own misdeeds.
Quote from: sheldar on February 01, 2010, 07:35:11 PM
I wonder if we will ever meet the original humans the 12 were based upon. For example, Col. Tighe.
Hmmm, I could live with seeing more #6.....
Quote from: Bromptonboy on February 05, 2010, 01:07:46 PM
Quote from: sheldar on February 01, 2010, 07:35:11 PM
I wonder if we will ever meet the original humans the 12 were based upon. For example, Col. Tighe.
Hmmm, I could live with seeing more #6.....
lol I would indeed like to know who 6 REALLY was...
Ok, why did he change the family name from Adams to Adama?
Quote from: sheldar on February 06, 2010, 05:21:09 AM
Ok, why did he change the family name from Adams to Adama?
They were Adama on Tauron but changed it to more "respectable" Admas when they move to Caprica. Now that he is embracing his peasant past, he changed it back. Good episode last night!
We've had the first two over here now. I assume that they made up the content of the DVD release?
I can't say it was quite what I was expecting and it took a little getting used to.
[spoiler]Seeing the updated-original Cylon brought out goose-bumps, and once we heard the immortal 'By your command' I was set to watch at least the next few episodes.
I never realised what a gut level emotional reaction that phrase would produce in me.[/spoiler]
We'll see if it can retain my interest but it's off to a good enough start.
I love the robotic voice. It's the only reason I'm watching! :)
Seriously though, this has potential and I too am wondering how the whole timeline fits together.
I am current on this show - and I can say that I am not hooked like I was with BSG (orig and remake) - but I will continue to watch.
The mob aspect is entertaining - I am waiting for a horsehead to show up in Greytones's bed...or a fish wrapped in newspaper to say that 'Baltar sleeps with the fishes tonight'
[spoiler]Does anyone else wonder who that shadowy character was that spoke to the teacher when she was in the 'confessional'-like booth? I wonder if it is one of the 'Final 5' or perhaps the Head Baltar?[/spoiler]
I just watched the 1st episode and LOVED it!!!!
The teacher just plain creeps me out. Very unnerving.
Quote from: billybob476 on February 09, 2010, 06:42:26 AM
The teacher just plain creeps me out. Very unnerving.
That whole thing does...
I liked the way they did the back and forth with showing the girl and the big robot/cylon in the first series episode. Really cool way to show it I thought. Haven't seen the most recent episode yet, but the show is intriguing me so far.
Yup, enjoying it. I'm glad this is a SyFy show. They'll give it the chance it deserves.
Quote from: billybob476 on February 09, 2010, 09:36:30 AM
Yup, enjoying it. I'm glad this is a SyFy show. They'll give it the chance it deserves.
Yep, it will actually have time to create a good story rather than doing it by the month....
Quote from: Rico on February 09, 2010, 09:35:24 AM
I liked the way they did the back and forth with showing the girl and the big robot/cylon in the first series episode. Really cool way to show it I thought. Haven't seen the most recent episode yet, but the show is intriguing me so far.
Yes that was a good touch. What will rope me in, will be somehow working in the final 5 or hints of them. Tricia Helfer wouldn't hurt either..
Quote from: Rico on February 09, 2010, 09:35:24 AM
I liked the way they did the back and forth with showing the girl and the big robot/cylon in the first series episode. Really cool way to show it I thought. Haven't seen the most recent episode yet, but the show is intriguing me so far.
It leads to a little bit of an interesting perspective change when they substitute one for the other but it's a neat idea. I don't think it's wholly original to Caprica, but I can't place where else I've seen similar.
I think Caprica has really taken off the last couple episodes. For a bit I was worried it was just a soap opera with some Sci-fi in it. But now I really think it's starting to speak in it's own voice and move the plot down the direction that leads to the Cylon rebellion.
I decided to make an STO wallpaper, it is 1240x 560
So how do you guys like it?
Cool Warren. Good job!
Very nice! THanks
Robot needs a red dress?
Quote from: Vartok on March 04, 2010, 05:12:13 PM
Robot needs a red dress?
That would truly make this 'must see TV'...
The last episode was so good. I'm glad we finally got to see a different colony cause that's really what I was hoping to get from this series. We never really learned much about the 11 other colonies other than some were quite religious.
I just hope the end game isn't that they are going to put poor teenage girls' avatars in each cylon to make them work. Cause in that case, I think I could have predicted they'd rebel. lol
Quote from: JoSpiv on March 06, 2010, 05:38:33 PM
The last episode was so good. I'm glad we finally got to see a different colony cause that's really what I was hoping to get from this series. We never really learned much about the 11 other colonies other than some were quite religious.
I just hope the end game isn't that they are going to put poor teenage girls' avatars in each cylon to make them work. Cause in that case, I think I could have predicted they'd rebel. lol
It is nice to see Turon, I think the lead cylon will be a teenager but the base code will be some zealot, why else would STO want the program not the robot.
Quote from: JoSpiv on March 01, 2010, 04:24:15 PM
I think Caprica has really taken off the last couple episodes. For a bit I was worried it was just a soap opera with some Sci-fi in it. But now I really think it's starting to speak in it's own voice and move the plot down the direction that leads to the Cylon rebellion.
Well put. I'm especially enjoying the "Tamara In V-World" storyline. Reminds me of some of the better cyberpunk novels I've read. I'm hoping the series gets the chance to grow. :)
I like the Tamara stuff too. But I find myself really enjoying the way they continue to blend the robot looking-Cylon Zoe with the real girl acting the part. Loved the bit at the end of the recent episode with her and the dog. Great stuff.
I agree! It's cool that the dog still seems to recognize her, despite her new form. And the ending of the episode gave me goosebumps. :)
The V-World Tamara almost seems like it could be a mini series
[spoiler] I was really waiting for someone to figure out that Zoe was the cylon. I like the idea of creating a virtual DNA for the Cylons to be all different, better then an army of Teenagers... I am hopping Zoe tells the lab guy who she is, I am liking where it is all going.[/spoiler]
My interest was flagging until the last 10 minutes:
[spoiler]When Mrs. Greystone asked 'Which God?' of the Sister character - and then the 1 word question 'Zoe?'.. [/spoiler]
Quote from: Bromptonboy on March 15, 2010, 03:08:07 PM
My interest was flagging until the last 10 minutes:
[spoiler]When Mrs. Greystone asked 'Which God?' of the Sister character - and then the 1 word question 'Zoe?'.. [/spoiler]
[spoiler]Somehow I don't think Mrs. Greystone knows she is a monotheist. It could also be that she is having a faith crisis. I also think he FINALLY figured out that his super killer robot is really his daughter. [/spoiler]
I know we've had a very long discussion about this in the past, but I was wondering what you guys think of how they handle the same sex relationships in this show. Personally, I really do like the way they approach it as being perfectly normal and acceptable without making a big deal, it just seems like another part of the world.
Quote from: billybob476 on March 16, 2010, 04:47:48 AM
I know we've had a very long discussion about this in the past, but I was wondering what you guys think of how they handle the same sex relationships in this show. Personally, I really do like the way they approach it as being perfectly normal and acceptable without making a big deal, it just seems like another part of the world.
Not to mention the multiple partner relations going on. I'm ok with it all, but I think it needs to be fleshed out a bit more. No pun intended. ;)
Quote from: Rico on March 16, 2010, 05:16:47 AM
Quote from: billybob476 on March 16, 2010, 04:47:48 AM
I know we've had a very long discussion about this in the past, but I was wondering what you guys think of how they handle the same sex relationships in this show. Personally, I really do like the way they approach it as being perfectly normal and acceptable without making a big deal, it just seems like another part of the world.
Not to mention the multiple partner relations going on. I'm ok with it all, but I think it needs to be fleshed out a bit more. No pun intended. ;)
Yes they incorporated Heinlein's 'Polyamory' - multi-person marriages to heart. What I like is they don't come off as preachy or 'PC' in this show, it is just part of the background.
Quote from: billybob476 on March 16, 2010, 04:47:48 AM
I know we've had a very long discussion about this in the past, but I was wondering what you guys think of how they handle the same sex relationships in this show. Personally, I really do like the way they approach it as being perfectly normal and acceptable without making a big deal, it just seems like another part of the world.
Hehe I was about to say "wait who has a same sex marriage....oh right" I like how accepted it is in the show
Quote from: Darkmolerman on March 16, 2010, 01:46:32 PM
Quote from: billybob476 on March 16, 2010, 04:47:48 AM
I know we've had a very long discussion about this in the past, but I was wondering what you guys think of how they handle the same sex relationships in this show. Personally, I really do like the way they approach it as being perfectly normal and acceptable without making a big deal, it just seems like another part of the world.
Hehe I was about to say "wait who has a same sex marriage....oh right" I like how accepted it is in the show
Yeah, that;s what's so cool, it seems so normal that you don't even notice it. I'd really like to get Kenny's take on this.
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Quote from: billybob476 on March 16, 2010, 04:47:48 AM
I know we've had a very long discussion about this in the past, but I was wondering what you guys think of how they handle the same sex relationships in this show. Personally, I really do like the way they approach it as being perfectly normal and acceptable without making a big deal, it just seems like another part of the world.
Hehe I was about to say "wait who has a same sex marriage....oh right" I like how accepted it is in the show
Yeah, that;s what's so cool, it seems so normal that you don't even notice it. I'd really like to get Kenny's take on this.
It is great that Taurons but accept same sex marriage because Sam seems to be super Tauron. Am I the only one that saw Taurons as much of the minorities? The tatoos are Polynesian, the gang is Mexican or Italian, etc
The Taurons seems to be Sicilian \ Greek \ Arabic - or a Mediterranean rim alloy with Maori touches tossed in!
I should have said pacific islander then Polynesian, more vague, I love the tattoo designs though. Their cities look European, their culture is pacific islander, and gang Italian or Mexican. Its fun to see the elements of different cultures together
That last episode was really intense. What did people think about it? I had a bit of a hard time even watching the part near the end with the final test Daniel gave to the robot/Cylon.
Yeah that was good - I thought for sure she would break. It is starting to pick up for me. New Cap City is pretty interesting:
[spoiler]Although I think Joseph Adama's guide in New Caprica may be his daughter[/spoiler]
Quote from: Bromptonboy on March 22, 2010, 02:33:45 PM
Yeah that was good - I thought for sure she would break. It is starting to pick up for me. New Cap City is pretty interesting:
[spoiler]Although I think Joseph Adama's guide in New Caprica may be his daughter[/spoiler]
One thing I don't quite get completely is why she (Zoe) is so angry with her father? I mean she is really, really mad at him.
Quote from: Rico on March 22, 2010, 02:40:37 PM
Quote from: Bromptonboy on March 22, 2010, 02:33:45 PM
Yeah that was good - I thought for sure she would break. It is starting to pick up for me. New Cap City is pretty interesting:
[spoiler]Although I think Joseph Adama's guide in New Caprica may be his daughter[/spoiler]
One thing I don't quite get completely is why she (Zoe) is so angry with her father? I mean she is really, really mad at him.
I think she is mad so that the producers can tap into the potential of teenage angst and self absorption. :) You ask a good question - perhaps it is the classic rich girl rebelling against the establishment.
Quote from: Rico on March 22, 2010, 02:40:37 PM
Quote from: Bromptonboy on March 22, 2010, 02:33:45 PM
Yeah that was good - I thought for sure she would break. It is starting to pick up for me. New Cap City is pretty interesting:
[spoiler]Although I think Joseph Adama's guide in New Caprica may be his daughter[/spoiler]
One thing I don't quite get completely is why she (Zoe) is so angry with her father? I mean she is really, really mad at him.
[spoiler] I don't think this is a spoiler but better safe then sorry. She is mad at him cause he took her from the V world into a robot. Also I think the guide is the assistant from the office, that gave him the info from his original guide [/spoiler]
Really intense epsisode, for sure, although I too am questioning Zoe's motivation. Her actions at the end of the episode, what she was willing to do juts to stay hidden from her father I found hard to accept. Still riviting stuff, though. I'm not so much digging the Adama story line right now, but we'll see where that heads.
Quote from: Bryancd on March 23, 2010, 05:22:54 AM
Really intense epsisode, for sure, although I too am questioning Zoe's motivation. Her actions at the end of the episode, what she was willing to do juts to stay hidden from her father I found hard to accept. Still riviting stuff, though. I'm not so much digging the Adama story line right now, but we'll see where that heads.
I kind of agree, but she later explains that she knew it wasn't really loaded. I think that sort of balanced it out for me.
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Really intense epsisode, for sure, although I too am questioning Zoe's motivation. Her actions at the end of the episode, what she was willing to do juts to stay hidden from her father I found hard to accept. Still riviting stuff, though. I'm not so much digging the Adama story line right now, but we'll see where that heads.
I kind of agree, but she later explains that she knew it wasn't really loaded. I think that sort of balanced it out for me.
Yeah. But the creepy part is she sort of said she might of gone through with it anyway, even if the gun was loaded. Yikes!
Gah! I've been scratching my head over these posts and just realised you're talking about the episode that airs tonight over here. Perhaps I should have thought of that BEFORE reading...
Oh well :(
Quote from: Just X on March 23, 2010, 08:15:21 AM
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Really intense epsisode, for sure, although I too am questioning Zoe's motivation. Her actions at the end of the episode, what she was willing to do juts to stay hidden from her father I found hard to accept. Still riviting stuff, though. I'm not so much digging the Adama story line right now, but we'll see where that heads.
I kind of agree, but she later explains that she knew it wasn't really loaded. I think that sort of balanced it out for me.
Your right, Chris, I forgot about that at the end.
Quote from: Rico on March 23, 2010, 08:19:23 AM
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Quote from: Bryancd on March 23, 2010, 05:22:54 AM
Really intense epsisode, for sure, although I too am questioning Zoe's motivation. Her actions at the end of the episode, what she was willing to do juts to stay hidden from her father I found hard to accept. Still riviting stuff, though. I'm not so much digging the Adama story line right now, but we'll see where that heads.
I kind of agree, but she later explains that she knew it wasn't really loaded. I think that sort of balanced it out for me.
Yeah. But the creepy part is she sort of said she might of gone through with it anyway, even if the gun was loaded. Yikes!
She said she would have shot her father, not the dog, but I think that's excusable given that your dad is telling you to shoot your dog.
Quote from: Just X on March 23, 2010, 09:30:55 AM
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Quote from: Bryancd on March 23, 2010, 05:22:54 AM
Really intense epsisode, for sure, although I too am questioning Zoe's motivation. Her actions at the end of the episode, what she was willing to do juts to stay hidden from her father I found hard to accept. Still riviting stuff, though. I'm not so much digging the Adama story line right now, but we'll see where that heads.
I kind of agree, but she later explains that she knew it wasn't really loaded. I think that sort of balanced it out for me.
Yeah. But the creepy part is she sort of said she might of gone through with it anyway, even if the gun was loaded. Yikes!
She said she would have shot her father, not the dog, but I think that's excusable given that your dad is telling you to shoot your dog.
Is that what she said? It was a bit hard to catch. I thought she had just said something like she wasn't sure. Have to watch that bit again.
Quote from: Rico on March 23, 2010, 09:33:06 AM
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Really intense epsisode, for sure, although I too am questioning Zoe's motivation. Her actions at the end of the episode, what she was willing to do juts to stay hidden from her father I found hard to accept. Still riviting stuff, though. I'm not so much digging the Adama story line right now, but we'll see where that heads.
I kind of agree, but she later explains that she knew it wasn't really loaded. I think that sort of balanced it out for me.
Yeah. But the creepy part is she sort of said she might of gone through with it anyway, even if the gun was loaded. Yikes!
She said she would have shot her father, not the dog, but I think that's excusable given that your dad is telling you to shoot your dog.
Is that what she said? It was a bit hard to catch. I thought she had just said something like she wasn't sure. Have to watch that bit again.
she said she knew and the robot knew there were blanks in that gun and she might have shot Dr. Greystone if it weren't blanks. I want her to finally tell him "DADDY IM HERE" so they will have an elite crime fighting duo...just saying :P
Does anyone else find the toaster-loving grad. student helping Dr. Greystone a tad creepy? I apologize up front for saying this...I just cannot resist...does that make him 'Robo-sexual'?
;)
Hey you! Stop your groaning over there! It wasn't that bad.
Hehe could be better...could be worse. I really want him to figure out its Zoe, make him THAT more awkward at work
I guess this just isn't grabbing me quite so much now. Still haven't seen this weeks but not for any particular reason other than other shows have had prioirty. I'm not giving up by any means but it's an interesting against which to measure my enjoyment of a show.
You know, I liked this weeks episode. The show has a lot of weak parts, I can't stand the Mom, but other parts I am finding good.
Quote from: Bryancd on March 27, 2010, 09:11:04 PM
You know, I liked this weeks episode. The show has a lot of weak parts, I can't stand the Mom, but other parts I am finding good.
[spoiler] I am pretty sure mom is not a worry anymore [/spoiler]
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Quote from: Bryancd on March 27, 2010, 09:11:04 PM
You know, I liked this weeks episode. The show has a lot of weak parts, I can't stand the Mom, but other parts I am finding good.
[spoiler] I am pretty sure mom is not a worry anymore [/spoiler]
[spoiler] Not so sure - her dead brother keeps making appearances.. [/spoiler]
In the same way as they did for BSG, SyFy is releasing a podcast for Caprica. In the last one I heard, they put forward the idea that the show will have undergone a little bit of a change in direction since episode seven to give it a little more of a direction. Does this fit anyone's experience of recent episodes?
Quote from: Feathers on March 28, 2010, 09:59:02 AM
In the same way as they did for BSG, SyFy is releasing a podcast for Caprica. In the last one I heard, they put forward the idea that the show will have undergone a little bit of a change in direction since episode seven to give it a little more of a direction. Does this fit anyone's experience of recent episodes?
I does appear to be picking up a bit now. I hope this change doesn't mean they are working without a full story arc plan - and are just making this up as they go along more or less.
I got caught up on the last 4 episodes over the weekend. Yeah, things have definitely picked up!
for all you twitter folks, Serge (the Graystone's butler robot or whatever he is) is twittering:
www.twitter.com/sergegraystone (http://www.twitter.com/sergegraystone)
Some of it can be taken as minor spoilers so beware. I find it very entertaining. Not sure if it's official or just a fan.
I'm hopefully getting to Ep 8 tonight with 9 due to air tomorrow.
Isn't Serge the thing that looks more at home in a bowling alley than a private residence?
Yeah kind of, but he's turning into my favorite character.
Not sure if this ahs been brought up but is the Graystone's dog the same dog from New Caprica in BSG? (I think his name was Jake)
Don't know. I've seen both recently and they look close enough I guess. Were the digs credited do you think? Need to find the appropriate IMDB page!
Quote from: Feathers on March 29, 2010, 02:53:06 PM
Don't know. I've seen both recently and they look close enough I guess. Were the digs credited do you think? Need to find the appropriate IMDB page!
All I know is that he is steady under fire!
Jamie and I love Surge!
http://blastr.com/2010/09/syfy-brings-caprica-back.php?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://blastr.com/2010/09/syfy-brings-caprica-back.php?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Caprica coming back early, on Oct. 5, and we have a SNEAK PEEK
Syfy just announced that it's moving the premiere of season 1.5 of Caprica to October 5 at 10pm instead of the originally planned return in January 2011. This is good news for fans who were left hanging with mid-season finale cliffhanger back in March and were disappointed that the show would take so long to return.
The move will put Caprica on Tuesday nights following Stargate Universe and push back the premiere of the new season of Sanctuary to Friday, Oct. 15, at 10pm. Sanctuary will air on Fridays instead of Tuesdays as part of the shift.
Here's the full press release below.
NEW YORK - September 9, 2010 - The highly anticipated return of Syfy's critically-acclaimed series Caprica will come even sooner than anticipated. The second half of season one will now premiere on Tuesday, October 5, 2010 at 10:00PM ET/PT, the channel announced today. Fans will no longer have to wait until January to watch the series exciting kick-off, as the citizens of Caprica deal with the chaotic aftermath of the mid-season finale's harrowing events.
The second half of season one will transport us from stunningly vivid, twisted Virtual realities to the fascinating outer worlds of the 12 Colonies. Along the way, revolutionary tensions rise, family power shifts and our characters grapple with the physical and emotional consequences of their questionable decisions. As the season races towards its stunning conclusion, each episode lays the groundwork for the inevitable (and brutal) clash between the new Cylon race and its human creators.
"Though we initially announced the January return of Caprica, we still had hopes of finding a way to get the series back on the air sooner," said Mark Stern, Executive Vice President of Original Programming, Syfy and Co-Head of Content for Universal Cable Productions. "We've been able to successfully re-work our schedule, and are thrilled to bring the show back during what is traditionally Syfy's most-watched time of the year. The outcome should also please fans who expressed their wishes for a shorter mid-season hiatus."
Caprica stars Eric Stoltz (Daniel Graystone), Paula Malcomson (Amanda Graystone), Esai Morales (Joseph Adama), Polly Walker (Sister Clarice Willow), Alessandra Torresani (Zoe Graystone), Magda Apanowicz (Lacy) and Sasha Roiz (Sam Adama).
Caprica will immediately follow new episodes of Stargate Universe (Tuesdays @ 9PM).
The third season premiere of Sanctuary will now launch in its former timeslot on Friday, October 15 at 10:00PM ET/PT immediately following Friday Night Smackdown on Syfy at 8:00PM ET/PT.
Produced by Universal Cable Productions, Caprica is a prequel to the award-winning series Battlestar Galactica, and is executive produced by Ronald D. Moore and David Eick. Jonas Pate serves as co-executive producer and director.
Was back on last night. Anyone watch yet?
I saw it and loved what they did with the show. There was a lot of big changes in it.
Cool. I'm going to try and watch it later today on www.hulu.com (http://www.hulu.com)
PVR'd it but I don't think I'll have time to watch till next week.
I watched it, trying to like it. I don't know.
I guess the thing with Caprica is it is very much a drama first and a sci fi show second (even more so then Galactica was). If you aren't into that type of thing I can see why it might not appeal.
yeah, I understand that completely. I wanted more robots and tech. Kind of tired of the whole virtual reality crap. But that is me.
Quote from: billybob476 on October 06, 2010, 11:47:18 AM
I guess the thing with Caprica is it is very much a drama first and a sci fi show second (even more so then Galactica was). If you aren't into that type of thing I can see why it might not appeal.
I agree and don't agree with this. While it is drama heavy, it has far more sci-fi than BSG. We get VR, AI, smart paper, robots, Cylons, and spaceships. We also get the drama that BSG was heavy with.
I think that the major differences are that a) We know how the story ends. b) We see how the story begins.
Now, while I'm enjoying the show, most of it becomes kind of moot. No matter what Joe does now, he's going to be a well respected lawyer and judge in the future. Nothing else that happens will change that. We also know his son's path.
The main crux is if you want to know what happened to people like Greystone and how the cylons started. Seeing that we did not get much mention of the one god in BS9, we can make other assumptions there.
Watching something you already know the ending to is a tough sell, but it's also something that I'm still buying.
I enjoyed this first episode back - to a degree. I'm finding some of the plot and logic a bit contrived. I like the VR stuff and want to get more back to the AI of the early cylons - like Zoe. And, why do they never show space travel in this show? They obviously have it. I'll keep watching, but I think they need to pick it up a bit.
Finally checked out the latest episode (thank you Hulu!)
I liked it. I'm a big enough BSG geek to get a kick out of having the back story of the worlds and characters fleshed out. I liked the little nods to Future BSG terms, like "boxing".
One thing that struck me though- the characters aren't the most sympathetic bunch, are they? I like the whole Gritty, Realistic, Complex Character angle, but it would be cool if a few of the characters had some more redeeming characteristics. In BSG, Adama, Starbuck, and many of the lead cylons were flawed, but they also had a little something that made us want to like them.
I'm going to stick with Caprica, but I hope we get a little more out of the characters.
Re. The virtual reality world of New Cap City: I actually like that part quite a bit. I smell hints of a link to the cylon projection ability. I also like how it seems to feed into the cylon's ability to download into new bodies.
I enjoyed the return of Caprica although I struggled to remember all the events that had happened as it had been off for a while.
Some great concepts being developed here, I am looking forward to how the Cylons develop from this point and how the virtual world is mixed up in this.
Like Eric, I'm not seeing much in the characters at the moment, the story is great, gritty and powerful but we need more character development.
I read somewhere that this season we will get more Scifi elements introduced and we will see more of the Colonies. Hopefully this will include the actual space travel! I get the feeling that if we do see this it may be more advanced tech wise than what was on BSG. Didn't they go retro at some point to minimise Cylon infiltration of their tech?
Quote from: wraith1701 on October 07, 2010, 08:10:19 AM
Finally checked out the latest episode (thank you Hulu!)
I liked it. I'm a big enough BSG geek to get a kick out of having the back story of the worlds and characters fleshed out. I liked the little nods to Future BSG terms, like "boxing".
One thing that struck me though- the characters aren't the most sympathetic bunch, are they? I like the whole Gritty, Realistic, Complex Character angle, but it would be cool if a few of the characters had some more redeeming characteristics. In BSG, Adama, Starbuck, and many of the lead cylons were flawed, but they also had a little something that made us want to like them.
I'm going to stick with Caprica, but I hope we get a little more out of the characters.
Re. The virtual reality world of New Cap City: I actually like that part quite a bit. I smell hints of a link to the cylon projection ability. I also like how it seems to feed into the cylon's ability to download into new bodies.
What if we get the reveal that the Cylons are actually an army of the dead? We don't know who they were because they didn't focus on the original cylons in BSG, and those that were shown were kind of Nerfed because they had their brains dumbed down. That might make the future story even more interesting if they went to war with the ghost of the people they loved.
Quote from: Dangelus on October 07, 2010, 08:55:18 AM
Didn't they go retro at some point to minimise Cylon infiltration of their tech?
Yep, they killed the internet and cellphones to keep the cylons away.
Quote from: X on October 07, 2010, 12:34:29 PM
What if we get the reveal that the Cylons are actually an army of the dead? We don't know who they were because they didn't focus on the original cylons in BSG, and those that were shown were kind of Nerfed because they had their brains dumbed down. That might make the future story even more interesting if they went to war with the ghost of the people they loved.
Dude; that would be a cool angle! :)
Kind of makes me wonder what will happen with Tamara & Zoe. For all we know, one of them may be destined to eventually be reborn as Scar. :cylon
Pretty interesting and violent recent episode (last week's). Kind of more of a drama than a Sci-Fi show right now. I liked the rain atmosphere in this one and the visuals were cool too. Very "Blade Runner" like as you can see in this screenshot below.
Not liking Caprica so far. Ron Moore is making this way to complicated and I must say I hate all the characters at this point other than Surge. Sometimes a producer can be too clever for his own good. My wife is done watching, she thinks it's too much and too hard to follow and i am borderline.
I agree. As and when this comes back over here, I'm not sure I'll be picking it up again. I intend to but it may simply get squeezed out.
While I don't find it too complicated, certainly not anymore than Galactica was, I do agree that just about all of the characters are not nice people. Even on BSG many of the flawed people still seemed to be trying to do good. I wonder if Moore is trying to show how man is ultimately bad and corrupt and this is what allows the Cylons to eventually take over? I could see him trying to do that. I do find the virtual world stuff and the Zoe/Cylon interaction interesting. I hope they get back to more of that soon.
I'm not a fan of "V" world. It's a weak plot device which uses an in universe technology that seems light years ahead of where this society seems to be. If Morre can't keep someone like Jamie engaged, and she liked BSG, then he's loosing the casual viewer and as a sci-fui fan, he BARELY has me still. I'm not finding the story compelling, just kind of contrived and nasty, the writting is and acting is blah, and it's a lot of lame drama going nowehre for me.
I don't find the virtual technology to hard to swallow. They have spaceflight that's as easy as air travel is for us. So they have the tech. But, I do agree that the day to day living of most of the characters seem pretty old school compared to other things we see. The only house that looks remotely futuristic is the Graystone place - and he's rich. I'm still finding the series intriguing but that's mainly because I want to see where it's headed.
Quote from: Bryancd on October 19, 2010, 05:38:39 AM
I'm not a fan of "V" world. It's a weak plot device which uses an in universe technology that seems light years ahead of where this society seems to be. If Morre can't keep someone like Jamie engaged, and she liked BSG, then he's loosing the casual viewer and as a sci-fui fan, he BARELY has me still. I'm not finding the story compelling, just kind of contrived and nasty, the writting is and acting is blah, and it's a lot of lame drama going nowehre for me.
I agree totally. I stopped watching. It was boring me.....
I am finding this show increasingly tough to watch - and I want to love it. Polly Walker (although I love her in other shows) doesn't do it for me in this role. Meg Tilley as the Reverend Mother (or whatever she was called) was great though.
The Tauron mob is really cool - but it is not enough. I hate to sound shallow, but I think they need to put some 20'something eye candy in the show. 11th graders (Lower 6th Form to our UK brethren) make me uncomfortable. :)
This show has stepped it's game up tonight. I really enjoyed the first obvious connection to the core of the BSG mythology that showed up tonight.
Quote from: X on October 19, 2010, 08:06:12 PM
This show has stepped it's game up tonight. I really enjoyed the first obvious connection to the core of the BSG mythology that showed up tonight.
Which episode since the return is that? Second? Third?
It's the third one into the return called "things we lock away."
Quote from: X on October 20, 2010, 12:12:42 PM
It's the third one into the return called "things we lock away."
I would like to lock away that Lacey character, she's annoying.
Quote from: Bryancd on October 20, 2010, 12:19:39 PM
Quote from: X on October 20, 2010, 12:12:42 PM
It's the third one into the return called "things we lock away."
I would like to lock away that Lacey character, she's annoying.
I think that's the point :)
Quote from: X on October 20, 2010, 12:12:42 PM
It's the third one into the return called "things we lock away."
Thanks. That gives me a marker to work towards as a minimum when this returns here.
Wow. Just when I thought Caprica couldn't get even worse...this last episode really raised the bar for ugly crap! Ron Moore has lost it.
Quote from: Bryancd on October 20, 2010, 06:22:27 PM
Wow. Just when I thought Caprica couldn't get even worse...this last episode really raised the bar for ugly crap! Ron Moore has lost it.
I loved last night!
Yes! Poorly acting teenage girls in Thunderdome is AWESOME!
Quote from: Bryancd on October 20, 2010, 07:01:35 PM
Yes! Poorly acting teenage girls in Thunderdome is AWESOME!
I was more interested in the reveals about Zoe's connections to the core of the BSG story.
I'm a little confused by the recent episode....
[spoiler]So, now they are saying that Zoe herself created her VR duplicate? When did she get so tech smart? Have they indicated that much before? I had always thought it was Daniel who had pieced together his virtual daughter in VR to help him with his loss? Why did they change that?? I'm not quite sure why they decided to do this. [/spoiler]
Is Ron Moore podcasting about "Caprica" like he did BSG? I think I need more answers.
Ron Moore's not podcasting but David Eick is. Haven't listened to the newest one since the shows not back here yet but I heard the first half season. As podcasts go they're OK but I think the Galactica ones were better.
Quote from: Rico on October 22, 2010, 05:41:39 AM
I'm a little confused by the recent episode....
[spoiler]So, now they are saying that Zoe herself created her VR duplicate? When did she get so tech smart? Have they indicated that much before? I had always thought it was Daniel who had pieced together his virtual daughter in VR to help him with his loss? Why did they change that?? I'm not quite sure why they decided to do this. [/spoiler]
Is Ron Moore podcasting about "Caprica" like he did BSG? I think I need more answers.
Here's how I understood it...
[spoiler]
I thought it was pretty clear that Zoe had made her VR duplicate before she died. That was why they wanted to get her and the program to Gemenon for the STO. Zoe was the programmer genius. Daniel found the avatar after her death. He made the avatar of Adama's daughter using Zoe's as a basis.
[/spoiler]
Hmm, ok that helps Joe. I think the lag between the first part of the season and the other half didn't help my memory of things. I still don't think they showed enough of this aspect of Zoe previously.
Quote from: Rico on October 22, 2010, 06:19:08 AM
Hmm, ok that helps Joe. I think the lag between the first part of the season and the other half didn't help my memory of things. I still don't think they showed enough of this aspect of Zoe previously.
Yeah, that was only really shown in the first episode of Season 1.
Rico ...
[spoiler] Zoe 2.0 was created by Zoe, who was inspired by what looks to be a Head Zoe and the one god. Daniel did make Tamara 2.0 for Joe. Now we're getting the story on how that all happened. They showed in flashes how smart she was, but now we're seeing where all that leads.[/spoiler]
** spoiler tag fixed **
Well this isn't ideal news
QuoteOct 27 2010 06:33 PM ET
Breaking: Syfy cancels 'Caprica'
by Michael Ausiello
Categories: Caprica, News, Scoop
Caprica is toast. Syfy has announced that the low-rated Battlestar Galactica prequel has been canceled.
"The remaining first run episodes of Caprica – airing Tuesdays at 10/9c – will be removed from the schedule as of next Tuesday, November 2," said the network in a statement. "These final five episodes of the season will be re-scheduled to air at a to be announced time in the first quarter of 2011, and will conclude the run of the series."
"We appreciate all the support that fans have shown for Caprica and are very proud of the producers, cast, writers and the rest of the amazing team that has been committed to this fine series," said Mark Stern, EVP of Original Programming at Syfy. "Unfortunately, despite its obvious quality, Caprica has not been able to build the audience necessary to justify a second season."
http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/10/27/breaking-syfy-cancels-caprica/ (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/10/27/breaking-syfy-cancels-caprica/)
Not surprising, seriously, I love BSG but this wasn't even close. I was just about to delete it from my DVR. Moore should have gone straight ahead focusing on the Zoe/Centurion and made it more action and fun rather than a dark and depressing look at ethnic, racial, and religious tensions in the first season. He could have saved that for later but he needed to find an audience first.
Sorry to see it go, but it wasn't quite grabbing many people. Considering the geek quotient here, it needed a different approach.
Don't you think it would have been way more fun to have Zoe/Cylon running around, escaping capture with Daniel trying to find her and protect her, using the crime syndicate Taurons to help while the government/evil corporate types try and exploit it? Sometimes a dumb, simple story really is best. Instead we get polygamist religious sects, Martin Scorsese level of crime family violence, teenage girls fighting in V whatever....
I've been watching Caprica, but it's hardly top of my list, but I just think Syfy is stupid these days. How many actual story driven shows do they have left on the channel? Almost everything is paranormal reality shows and wrestling (which I hate even more). I have little respect for SyFy channel anymore, it's worse than any of the network channels.
One of the big problems I think is they picked the wrong time frame to do the series. It would have been much more interesting to see Cylons as they started working in society and then eventual rebel - but that was many years away for "Caprica." This upcoming BSG movie sounds like a much better time setting with Adama as a younger version of himself during the first Cylon war. Oh, well. I respect them for attempting something as ambitious as they did.
Yes, 'The Rise of the Machines' was what I hopes to see. What we got was something much diminished from that in my opinion. My decision now is over whether to bother with the second half of the season if it comes back over here.
Did this show get cancelled? I was just starting to warm to it - especially after the last released episode.
Quote from: Bromptonboy on November 03, 2010, 03:49:27 AM
Did this show get cancelled? I was just starting to warm to it - especially after the last released episode.
Yup, cancelled. You might get the last few episodes of season 1 sometime next year. I'm not sure if they're going to air any of the back half over here.
Looks like the final episodes will air - all in the same day:
Wondering when you can see the final episodes of "Caprica"? Syfy finally has given an answer.
The "final five" of the "Battlestar Galactica" spinoff will air Jan. 4, just after the New Year. And no, it doesn't start Jan. 4 ... the final five episodes will actually air Jan. 4 from 6 p.m. to 11 p.m. ET.
Syfy is essentially burning off the episodes, running them in a marathon to collect whatever revenue it can from the final episodes in the series it cancelled earlier this month after a single season.
The cable channel, which made the unusual move of pulling the show off the air as soon as the plug was pulled, made no formal announcement about the scheduling, at least not through its normal channels using entertainment news outlets.
Because of that, it's likely Syfy will invest absolutely no money in promotion of the final episodes.
http://www.airlockalpha.com/node/8062/final-caprica-episodes-will-air-in-single-day.html (http://www.airlockalpha.com/node/8062/final-caprica-episodes-will-air-in-single-day.html)
Sad - but not surprised.
I'm still looking for some indication that we're going to see any of the back half over here. In one sense, I don't mind but I think I'll watch them through if they do come on.
I'm going to finish out watching the series too. I've been hearing very good things about the final episodes since they have "leaked" online in places.
I finished Caprica's second season last night and, you know?, it wasn't at all bad. It definately picked up a hell of a lot at the end of the second series and, what it showed to come from series 3 looked good. Pity it was cancelled as it was going to go the way Rico suggested above...
I think it suffered so much because season 1 had no exciting story arc with a definate ending. Season 2 had a big event that they needed to try and stop as a part of it's story arc. And at the end, we got a conclusion to this story arc. If they had condensed series 1 and 2 into a single season, I'm sure it would have kept a lot more viewers interest and maybe, just maybe, avoided cancellation!
I'm pretty sure it WAS one season. Just one with a long mid-season break. (So long that the second half has never aired over here.)
It was down on my download site as two. If it was a single season with a break, it should have been shorter and without the break. Too much of nothing happened for the first three quarters.....actually, I think I enjoyed the first quarter too. Perhaps it was the middle 50% that killed the show.
Quote from: Feathers on December 11, 2010, 10:28:00 AM
I'm pretty sure it WAS one season. Just one with a long mid-season break. (So long that the second half has never aired over here.)
Actually, you got the rest of the series before we did. We're still waiting on the last five of the 18 that already aired on your side of the pond.
Quote from: Feathers on December 11, 2010, 10:28:00 AM
I'm pretty sure it WAS one season. Just one with a long mid-season break. (So long that the second half has never aired over here.)
It was one season, with a break midway. The final episodes air all on Jan. 4th over here in the states on the SyFy channel.
http://www.tv.com/caprica/show/65632/episode.html?q=caprica&tag=search_results;eps;1 (http://www.tv.com/caprica/show/65632/episode.html?q=caprica&tag=search_results;eps;1)
I noticed the SyFy logo had vanished from my download. Replaced by Space channel I think.....Isn't that Canadian?
Quote from: ori-STUDFARM on December 11, 2010, 01:25:25 PM
I noticed the SyFy logo had vanished from my download. Replaced by Space channel I think.....Isn't that Canadian?
Yes, they have aired up there already.
Quote from: X on December 11, 2010, 12:58:19 PM
Quote from: Feathers on December 11, 2010, 10:28:00 AM
I'm pretty sure it WAS one season. Just one with a long mid-season break. (So long that the second half has never aired over here.)
Actually, you got the rest of the series before we did. We're still waiting on the last five of the 18 that already aired on your side of the pond.
As far as I know, we've only had the first nine. If they aired the second half over here then I missed it.
I don't think it's aired over here....I found it elsewhere. **ahem**
Quote from: Feathers on December 11, 2010, 02:41:50 PM
Quote from: X on December 11, 2010, 12:58:19 PM
Quote from: Feathers on December 11, 2010, 10:28:00 AM
I'm pretty sure it WAS one season. Just one with a long mid-season break. (So long that the second half has never aired over here.)
Actually, you got the rest of the series before we did. We're still waiting on the last five of the 18 that already aired on your side of the pond.
As far as I know, we've only had the first nine. If they aired the second half over here then I missed it.
That's my fault. I thought Space was UK when it's CAN
Ah, OK. Space, Sky, they're all the same...
Any other news - rumors on the new BSG series?
Don't forget, the final episodes of "Caprica" are airing on SyFy today in the States. I've read these are pretty good and I'm planning on watching how things play out. Still sorry to see this interesting series go.
The last few are supposed to be particularly good. Still no news of whether we get to see them over here though.
Quote from: Rico on January 04, 2011, 08:14:05 AM
Don't forget, the final episodes of "Caprica" are airing on SyFy today in the States. I've read these are pretty good and I'm planning on watching how things play out. Still sorry to see this interesting series go.
Can't believe they are going to air all five back to back to back to back to back.. that's just weird.. but I guess it's good they are airing them all.
I've got my DVR set.
Andrew and I did the marathon of Caprica. The last five episodes were in my opinion ....
AWESOME!
If they had only been that way for the others I think we would have seen more seasons.
OK SPOILER
the Cylon graphics were awesome, we got to see space ships, cool computer stuff and more. EXCELLENT. And the story really picked up.
I only had one major complaint on this series. I thought they did some pretty horrid stereotyping of religion. But that is a different discussion.
What did you think of the "next season" preview.....the season that will now never be?
Episodes 14-18 now up on Hulu for your viewing pleasure. Some big action in there.
V
I finally am working my way through the last episodes. Only have one episode left to go. But something kind of big happened in the second to last episode near the end. Makes me anxious to watch the last one. Hopefully tonight. Really too bad this series didn't get a chance to go further.
I know, the last six episodes were the best out of all of them. It is too bad.
My DVR got interrupted, so I missed part of the 2nd to last episode. Can someone answer this question?
[spoiler]When Graystone's XO held the cops at gun-point while Graystone & wife made their escape - what happened to the guy holding the gun?[/spoiler]
Quote from: Bromptonboy on February 14, 2011, 01:36:38 PM
My DVR got interrupted, so I missed part of the 2nd to last episode. Can someone answer this question?
[spoiler]When Graystone's XO held the cops at gun-point while Graystone & wife made their escape - what happened to the guy holding the gun?[/spoiler]
What you describe is at the start of the last episode...
[spoiler]They don't show what happens to Daniel's XO.[/spoiler]
Summing up my thoughts on the last episode...
[spoiler]So the Willie we saw through the series was not "our" Bill Adama from BSG - they had another son. A bit tricky but that works ok for me. The last episode was pretty powerful stuff. Lots of interesting events take place. Of course it seemed a bit rushed, but I like the ideas they were trying to put out there. Going to miss this series.[/spoiler]
The show really grew on me. The 'final 5' episodes really picked up the pace. I was indifferent to the show before that, but watched out of obligation. Thankfully the up and coming show sounds like it will be better - I think they learned their lesson about trying to pull in a new demographic.
Caprica Ep. 10 will finally air on Sky 1 in the UK on May 16. I assume the rest of the back half of the show will follow.
I guess I'll watch since it appears to be better than the first half season. Given that I already know it's over, however, my motivation isn't that high.
Quote from: Feathers on May 05, 2011, 02:15:59 PM
Caprica Ep. 10 will finally air on Sky 1 in the UK on May 16. I assume the rest of the back half of the show will follow.
I guess I'll watch since it appears to be better than the first half season. Given that I already know it's over, however, my motivation isn't that high.
Yeah; I hear you man.
I'm a SUPER BSG fan, but I've kind of fallen out of love with Caprica. One of these days, I'll check out the last few episodes.
One of these days.
If only they had that same pacing as the last shows for the start of the series - we would still have this show. I 'get' what they were trying to do by appealing to different types of viewers - but I think that didn't work at all.
Quote from: Bromptonboy on May 06, 2011, 02:42:29 AM
If only they had that same pacing as the last shows for the start of the series - we would still have this show. I 'get' what they were trying to do by appealing to different types of viewers - but I think that didn't work at all.
Aargh! Now I'm halfway through the back half, I really, really wish this was coming back. The first half did very little to appeal to me but now we're getting into the meat of it and I'm starting to enjoy it. If the last four are this good then I'm going to regret the loss of this show. (I could still do without the first twelve episodes or so but at least I now understand what it was all setting up.)
Yes indeed - they were just starting to find their pace when the carpet got pulled. Oh well. Hopefully Blood & Chrome will learn from this experience.
The irony is that they seem to have got going just a little sooner than SGU did (in episode count terms) and still got canned a full season earlier.