Doctor Who The Eleventh Doctor - spoilers

[Meds]

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Re: Doctor Who The Eleventh Doctor - spoilers
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No Doctor Donna was resolved, I see where you are coming from. The idea the girl is river song is good but she would know all about the girl straight off. It would appear she is a Time Lady of sorts.
Chris nice thoughts but I don't think traveling with the Dr would change you're baby into a time lord. We're presuming the baby is Amy's. Just because we see a photo of her with a baby doesn't mean it's hers.
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[Rico]

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Re: Doctor Who The Eleventh Doctor - spoilers
« Reply #600 on: Today at 06:12:20 PM »
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No Doctor Donna was resolved, I see where you are coming from. The idea the girl is river song is good but she would know all about the girl straight off. It would appear she is a Time Lady of sorts.
Chris nice thoughts but I don't think traveling with the Dr would change you're baby into a time lord. We're presuming the baby is Amy's. Just because we see a photo of her with a baby doesn't mean it's hers.
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I looked back at the earlier episode and it begs the question:

[spoiler] They hadn't seen the doc for a few months. The Doc knew something was up because he told her that she was putting on weight. I think that's the best clue that he could give her without breaking the rules. I'm pretty sure that she conceived on the Tardis because of the time frame. Here are two things that we also must consider. 1)Nature abhors a vacuum 2) How many times has the universe allowed the Dalek to be reborn despite being erased from existance? Do we really think that it won't do the same for the time lords at some point?

The last of the Time Lords was a RTD thing that even he was going back on. As for the picture, why would the kid have a picture of Amy and her baby if it didn't mean something to her? I think that all those things will come out soon. What interests me the most is the suggestion that this Doctor is the final regeneration of the Doctor. Unless it was the Half Doctor in the suit taking his regenerations, this is the last Doctor because they didn't fix the situation. [/spoiler]

[Meds]

[spoiler]Hmm, cool thoughts but lets get the regeneration thing out of the way. The law of only having 13 bodies is not really true. The reason why I say this is in one Tom Baker episode all the Dr's past selves are shown and there was about 5 we don't know about. Also in one episode when Romana regenerates the Dr says "you can't go round in a body like that, change it" and she does around 4 times which also counts out a limited life span. The off the cuff comment in SJA about having 507 is probably about right. The photograph of Amy and the baby could be her being a godmother, a sister even so don't count that out. It looks too much of an obvious clue to have that on show. The whole Dalek issue from last season when Amy does not remember them adds a lot of extra questions now.[/spoiler]

[Dangelus]

Ok I'm still confused but I am really enjoying it. :)

It begs the question though:

Is Moffat being overly complicated to extent that it might put off the casual viewer? I think this might be a concern.

[Meds]

I think you are right Dan.

[Dangelus]

Well this brings with it the problem that sadly it is the casual viewer that dictates the success and continuation of a show. He can't afford to cater just for the hardcore fans. I'm loving this direction and that fact I don't have a clue whats going on. I hate watching predictable show but im a lover of complex scifi. Unfortunately I have seen more that one person who are not mega fans just going "huh?"

[X]

Well this brings with it the problem that sadly it is the casual viewer that dictates the success and continuation of a show. He can't afford to cater just for the hardcore fans. I'm loving this direction and that fact I don't have a clue whats going on. I hate watching predictable show but im a lover of complex scifi. Unfortunately I have seen more that one person who are not mega fans just going "huh?"

Here is the think. I truly believe that anyone could have jumped in on those two episodes and enjoyed them. It is not necessary to know everything that came before it because they went out of their way to explain everything to the laymen. Now in addition to making it easy for the average joe or Jane to get aboard, there were additional levels of stories that seemed to reward the viewer depending on how much they had seen before.

For the laymen, those were two complete stories that hinted at something more. For the experienced, it gave a ton of stuff to chew on.

[Feathers]

Ok I'm still confused but I am really enjoying it. :)

It begs the question though:

Is Moffat being overly complicated to extent that it might put off the casual viewer? I think this might be a concern.

Had thus conversation with a friend at Church today and I think we agreed that it is a risk but I'm not sure we'll truly know until the season plays out fully. I think if he did do that it would be a notable change from last year so I'm still hopefull that we'll be OK.

[Scott]

Some Thoughts....

[spoiler]Could the little girl be Riversong and the Doctor's kid? It's obviously hinted at that the Doctor and Riversong are a couple or married. Amy just the godmother so that's how she is in the pic with the kid.

As for Amy's baby, what if it's the first of the Silence? I seem to remember the Silence saying she was the key to everything or something like that. Rory has memories from being a Nestene, yet he's human. Maybe something there messed up the biology of the baby inside Amy.

Also, I've been thinking. If I remember right, Riversong is in prison because she killed someone important. At the end of Episode 2, she said she needs to be in prison because she promised someone. You guys think she was in the suit killing the Doctor? She didn't seem as upset at the Doctor dying as Amy and Rory, kind of like she remembered it happening or something.[/spoiler]

I am probably wrong on so many things, but we all have our own ideas.

[Geekyfanboy]

I love all your guys theories on what's happening.. I've thought the same things. guess only time will tell which one is right.. if any. I have trust in Moffat's writing. Next weeks looks fun.

[WillEagle]

Since I missed the premiere when it aired on the 23rd I thought I would just wait and watch the first 2 back to back, which I did on Sunday. I thought they were both good episodes and I think I followed them alright.[spoiler]Some favorite parts were when Amy was looking out to the lake, I know it was a sad time but she looked awesome! Also when the Tardis was in the Oval Office that was cool!! And those silence aliens were ugly![/spoiler]

[Geekyfanboy]

Hmmm not sure I like these rumors.

Will this be the last Doctor Who season for Amy Pond?

The departure of companions is nothing new in the grand scheme of Doctor Who history, but in a season already marked by death, could we be seeing a much more grisly end for Amy and Rory? Looks like, no matter what, the signs are building to an end for the Doctor's favorite married couple.

In addition to the hints that Amy and Rory's marriage would be put to the test, both Karen Gillan and Arthur Darville seem to be taking on projects whose filming schedule would directly conflict with Doctor Who's.

Gillan will be taking on the role of Jean Shrimpton in BBC Four Drama We'll Take Manhattan and was quoted as saying "This is perfect for the first thing that I do after I finish Doctor Who." Meanwhile, Darville is set to play Mephistopheles in Marlowe's Doctor Faustus from June 18th through the 2nd of October.

While David Tennant may have managed a season of specials to play Hamlet, it seems unlikely that the show would take another break so soon for anyone who wasn't the Time Lord himself.

So where does that leave us? Do you think Amy and Rory's days are numbered? If so, then what sort of character would you want to replace them? Should River Song become a full time companion ... or is it time for fresh blood? Personally, we'd love to see another Time Lord (or Lady) sharing the TARDIS like Romana did back in the late '70s.

[Dangelus]

Hmmm it's very vague.

I don't know much about TV recording schedules but it's always a possibility that it could be managed?

I don't mind change and I think that if this is true then Moffat will see them go out with a bang and he will have something even better in store for us.

[Meds]

Well you have to think they are still filming Dr Who at the moment. they are doing pick up shots for the last episode so Karen saying "after i finish Dr Who" is about right. Moffat is now writing and getting ready for Sherlock (and remember Freeman is in New Zealans at the moment and he is recording that so the reasons for splitting Dr Who into two is starting to make even more sense.

Companions for the Tardis. Anyone who doesnt fancy the Dr (male or female), I agree with Kenny Romana would be great, maybe even a old companion like Jamie, Perry, Turlock would be brilliant.