"STAR TREK" movie comments/reviews (spoilers)

[Dangelus]

I'm not going to keep going on about it because everybody has the right to their opinion and as I said I have no issue with the changes and I accept them as part of a modern take on Trek. I just wish JJ and Co had come clean at the beginning because the movie is excellent. Many of the changes are there to open up Trek to a larger audience, such as real dates for stardates, using the 'Enterprise Delta' for the Starfleet insignia etc.

Did you factor in the timeline changes that were caused by Enterprise? Either via First Contact or from their own time altering travels? I tied some of the changes to enterprise and some of them to the results of the timeline changes from Nero. When they mentioned Archer, that opened the door and put the enterprise time line changes into play.

I know people have some issues with Enterprise, but I think that if we assume that ship designs were influenced by Cochrane and other's experiences with the E and the technology recovered from the borg in later episodes, we can put together a very valid reason why things were already changing before they started changing again.

It's a great idea and I'd love it if that was tied into this somehow. Of course I'm just basing my thoughts on what I've seen in this movie and what we have been told about it. What fan's like us do best is to speculate and 'fill in the gaps' and I'm sure we will see fan based stories start to appear trying to address this.

One other thing to keep in mind about this movie with regards to the look.  JJ and his team have stated that they wanted to create a version of Trek that might have been made in the present day, if Gene Roddenberry had the film effects and computer tech we have now.  So that is one of the reasons for the updated look to things.

This is spot on. This is what I mean, that the changes are just updates that don't need explaining.   ;D

[Rico]

The explaining is needed for older fans - in general.  They need to know 40 years of watching a franchise just didn't get erased in a two hour movie.

Let me make another comparison.  The Amazing Spider-Man comic about a year ago wiped out most of Peter's history.  He kind of had to make a deal with the devil.  So everything is now different for him.  And I personally hated the idea and haven't been able to enjoy the comic since.  Now in the world of comics things could certainly change back again, but I felt it was a very cheap thing to do to the long time fans.  Unlike when they just did 'another new Spidey comic' called "Ultimate Spider-Man."  This is Peter in sort of a new timeline, alternate story.  Great idea and I love the book.  But I was always able to also still enjoy the Spider-Man I grew up with too.  But now that's gone.  Anyway, kind of a long analogy, but I think this is why it was important to not simple just rewrite everything in "Star Trek."

[Dangelus]

Most certainly explaining is necessary and in this case outside of the context of movie, such as the comment you made about JJ wanting to make Trek as if Roddenberry was making it today. This is exactly what he did.
The plot has no bearing on these changes but because of what has been said about it before we got to see it many expected it to address them.

If you think it's compliacted now, wait until the next movie when we most likely will see Klingons!

I wonder what they will look like?  :klingon?

[Yeoman Mara]

Hey guys!  Saw the movie last night and loved it!  So cool!  And Chris Pine is quite handsome!  And I was happy that they still kept the old stuff around.  Loved seeing Nimoy - he was great as Spock again.  :)

I already want to see it again!  hehe

[RickPeete]

Klingons need to look like TNG Klingons in my opinion.

As for the TOS Klingons -- 'We do not speak of it!'

-Rick

[kfred]

I saw the movie and really liked it.   The movie captures the essence of Star Trek, from TOS through Enterprise.  

Can't wait until the next Star Trek movie!

Kevin  

[Dangelus]

Klingons need to look like TNG Klingons in my opinion.

As for the TOS Klingons -- 'We do not speak of it!'

-Rick

Of course they will, though they shouldn't really...  ;)

BTW that scene with Nero and the masked Klingons never made it into the movie did it? Or did I miss it?

I wonder if the Klingon battle will make it onto the DVD! Now that would be great!

[Alice Baker]

This movie makes me desperately want to take my simm into this new universe! Hehe it's so interesting with the slight changes. Idk this movie has me wanting to try it.    :cheering

[X]

Klingons need to look like TNG Klingons in my opinion.

As for the TOS Klingons -- 'We do not speak of it!'

-Rick

Of course they will, though they shouldn't really...  ;)

BTW that scene with Nero and the masked Klingons never made it into the movie did it? Or did I miss it?

I wonder if the Klingon battle will make it onto the DVD! Now that would be great!

Of course they should! When Gene had them done for the movies, he said that they were supposed to have always looked like that and when you saw them in TOS, imagine them as the movie version. I think trials and tribulations messed that up, but it was recorrected in enterprise and led to two types of Klingons existing.

I think we could have either and it would still work.

[stardustnhs]

I loved the movie! But they destroyed Vulcan!!!  :-\ All I have to say is that they had better make a sequel or else a lot of what has happened in Roddenberry's Star Trek doesn't make sense...

P.S. I LOVED seeing Leonard Nemoy!!! The whole audience was cheering when they saw him! You could really tell that a lot of us in the audience were trekkies because we all were laughing and cheering whenever one of the characters said their trademark phrases

:vulcan Live Long and Prosper  :vulcan

[X]

This movie makes me desperately want to take my simm into this new universe! Hehe it's so interesting with the slight changes. Idk this movie has me wanting to try it.    :cheering

Slight changes? I'd think there would be far more than slight changes. Several episodes wouldn't exist as written as would a movie or two.

[Dangelus]

I doubt any would happen the same way. They have started their 5 year mission 10 years early!

[Bryancd]

No, there was no way they weren't going to connect the two universes using Spock and it was well enough done, BUT I still contend that the film could have easily stood without it. And this is coming from someone who was not happy about the whole idea of this film in the first place! I had bought in 100% before Spock even showed up and found the whole exposition parts with him to be confusing and slowed the movie's pacing down a lot.

[Feathers]

I agree. I liked having Spock cross over into this and I think I prefer it this way but it would have worked without him (as I suspect we'd have seen if Nimoy had said No)..

[X]

I loved the movie! But they destroyed Vulcan!!!  :-\ All I have to say is that they had better make a sequel or else a lot of what has happened in Roddenberry's Star Trek doesn't make sense...

P.S. I LOVED seeing Leonard Nemoy!!! The whole audience was cheering when they saw him! You could really tell that a lot of us in the audience were trekkies because we all were laughing and cheering whenever one of the characters said their trademark phrases

:vulcan Live Long and Prosper  :vulcan

It doesn't need to make sense because it's something new. A change in the timeline. I'm more shocked that Amanda died and Pike was wounded before the Cage. Kirk was 25 when he became captain in the new timeline. 31 in the old one. A lot has changed. He will have seven extra years in the big chair getting experience before he even before he would have started on the Enterprise.