"STAR TREK" movie comments/reviews (spoilers)

Started by Rico, May 03, 2009, 12:44:13 PM

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cosmonaut

Quote from: Ktrek on May 11, 2009, 11:23:47 PM
They know full well that there are going to be young people in the audience and I just think it speaks a whole lot as to Orci and Kurtzman's character. In other words...not much there.
Interesting deduction, I have to say.

It's not like they are advertising it, and it's a PG 13 movie. So if you bring your 10 year old, you just have to do some explaining. Blame the parents, if you have to.
This sentence fits very well to the intention to make the future less clean, and I have serious doubts any kids will be damaged. I bet that critter in Pikes head will leave a longer lasting impression.

billybob476

I have to agree. It's a throwaway line. Even guys who DO take no for an answer (myself included!) have been on the receiving end of much harsher and much more offensive rebuttals from ladies at the bar. To me it helped to make the scene believable.

Also I have to agree. The movie is rated PG-13. That was a PG-13 appropriate reference.

Rico

Like others have said, the movie is PG-13.  The bar line is a joke.  Many, many worse things are said in bars.  For me it fits and works.  What I think is interesting that killing hundreds of people, destroying a whole planet, torturing someone, not that big a deal.  But making a joke about sex with animals - that's too far?  Just my viewpoint.

spaltor

I think you're underestimating kids around 10-13.  A friend of mine teaches 7th grade math in rural Connecticut, and 5 of her students got pregnant last year.  5 seventh graders!  And I'll admit that I remember being aware of "immoral sexual acts" in elementary school.  And that's not something you can blame on parenting or television - I was raised by a PhD in Theology and a Theological Educator, and I wasn't even allowed to watch "Bewitched" growing up.  Kids learn these things from their fellow students long before they even let on to their parents what's going on.  In fact, I was recently recounting a story from high school, in which I admitted to my father that I was often offered marajuana in the girls' bathroom.  He was shocked, and I had to explain that those encounters *began* in the 6th grade.

Also, I'll also admit that I've said worse things in a bar - although, I'm not proud of it.

Rico

I'm not exactly sure what you are saying?  Are you saying a line in a movie is going to make someone go out and do what they say?  If that is the case, that person has some problems.  Also, again the movie is PG-13.  Oh, and I'm very well aware of teen or even younger pregnancy with young girls.  My wife is a teacher and I was one as well.

Also, I will say as a parent it is up to you what values you teach your children.  I disagree with your comment about not blaming how children behave on parenting.  By the time they get to school much of their basic value system has been set.  It is up to you to have a rapport with your kids and mutual respect so that they are comfortable coming to you about things.  This takes time and work.  Something that sadly many parents are not willing to provide. 

spaltor

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I'm saying exactly the opposite.  That a line in a movie is NOT going to make people go out and do what it says.  I'm on your side, Rico.

Any earlier post went on the assumption that kids aren't aware of "sex with animals" around middle school age.  Basically, assuming that pubescent children and completely naive.  They're not.  If your children go to public school, Star Trek will not be the first place they hear a joke about "sex with animals".

My comment about parenting was not general statement, but specific to my case.  That I was just as aware of all of my friends growing up, and my parents did everything in their power to sheild me from "immoral" things.  So I guess the general conclusion that comes from the specific case is that you can't sheild your children from everything.  They probably know more than you think they do.

Rico

I wasn't quite sure.  Yeah, I've seen a lot of people try to shield kids for perhaps too long.  I'm not saying take a ten year old to an R movie, but at some point they need to start making their own choices.  My younger son (who is now 18) always jokes about how I wouldn't let him watch "24" when he was younger and now he does watch.  I said watching Jack Bauer torture another bad guy is probably not the best thing for even an 11-12 year old to watch.  Plus frankly I didn't think overall the show would appeal to him.

Anyway - spun way off topic now.  I want to go to see "Star Trek" again - soon.  Only once so far - I'm slacking!

RickPeete

Come on Rico! Just once? I am shocked! :)
LOL!

Rico

Quote from: RickPeete on May 12, 2009, 07:49:44 AM
Come on Rico! Just once? I am shocked! :)
LOL!

Yeah - I know!  I'm hanging my head in shame right now!  ;)

Ktrek

I was hoping to be able to see an IMAX showing but the IMAX in Dallas only shows dates to Thursday. So, I assume that something else will be playing this weekend and I can't get there during a weeknight.

Kevin
"Oh...Well, Who am I to argue with me?" Dr. Bashir - Visionary - Deep Space Nine

Bryancd

I'm going to try and get back and see it again this week. One thing I notice watching the film for the first time was that the second time we see Nero, his left ear tip has been cut off. I realize now that the cut scene where Nero is captured by the Klingon's he likely had his ear mauled off!

billybob476

I'm heading to a wedding in Montreal this weekend so I think I may end up seeing it Sunday evening with my dad.

X

Quote from: Bryancd on May 12, 2009, 08:52:10 AM
I'm going to try and get back and see it again this week. One thing I notice watching the film for the first time was that the second time we see Nero, his left ear tip has been cut off. I realize now that the cut scene where Nero is captured by the Klingon's he likely had his ear mauled off!
Not only is it cut off, there is scaring that wraps about part of his head. it look like he got either hit with a spiked chain or pushed into something with a lot of spikes.

Trekkygeek

As a birthday treat I'm going to see it for a third time on Tuesday. I have only been to see a movie more than once at the cinema and that was Braveheart all those years ago.

I have set a precedent with this movie. Not only have I already seen it twice, but both viewings were on the same day... and I'm going again. I really didn't ecpect this to happen. I haven't even seen any of the other Trek movies twice at the cinemas. Go figure THAT one out.  :wacko
You could learn something from Mr Spock Doctor..... Stop thinking with your glands"

Rico