"STAR TREK" movie comments/reviews (spoilers)

Bryancd · May 13, 2009, 02:18:58 PM

Heading out to see the movie again today! And I am planning on picking up the book as well, X.

X · May 13, 2009, 02:36:36 PM

Think of it as a director's cut ... there are a bunch of "extended scenes" that rock in what they bring to the characters.

billybob476 · May 14, 2009, 05:42:20 AM

Saw this yesterday, thought it was funny. Minor spoilers for Trek (and Star Wars if you haven't seen it :D)

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1910892

billybob476 · May 14, 2009, 05:43:52 AM

Quote from: Bryancd on May 13, 2009, 02:18:58 PM
Heading out to see the movie again today! And I am planning on picking up the book as well, X.

Oh wow, the novelization is by Alan Dean Foster. I enjoy his work, this is on my list!

Rico · May 14, 2009, 05:55:21 AM

I was listening to Star Wars Action News with Arnie and Marjorie and Arnie had an interesting thing to say I thought. There seem to be cycles of Star Wars and Trek. First it was TOS Trek, syndication, then the original Star Wars movies came along and kind of pushed Trek out of the "spotlight" a bit. Then after the SW OT, Trek kind of took over again with TNG, big movies, more series, etc. until it kind of faded a bit and then the SW prequels came around. Now with the big new Trek movie and SW only having the cartoon series, Trek seems to be in front again. I know Arnie didn't mean any of this as a competition (he is a fan of both), but I thought it was interesting. Maybe there is only room for one big Sci-Fi thing with "Star" in the title being on top at one time. In any case, I thought it was an interesting discussion.

billybob476 · May 14, 2009, 06:01:17 AM

I heard that too and I tend to agree with him. I think the relationship is that these are the two major sci fi 'fandom' franchises. Yes, there are Browncoats, BSG fans, etc etc but they don't compare to the numbers of Trekkies/Terkkers and Star Wars fans.

It seems like only one powerhouse can be in front at any given time. Maybe if/when the Star Wars live action series comes out Star Wars will take the lead again.

Jaames · May 14, 2009, 07:54:49 AM

Quote from: billybob476 on May 14, 2009, 06:01:17 AM
I think the relationship is that these are the two major sci fi 'fandom' franchises. Yes, there are Browncoats, BSG fans, etc etc but they don't compare to the numbers of Trekkies/Terkkers and Star Wars fans.

Only two?!? Heelllloooo, StarGATE anyone??? :smilie_nono:

You're forgetting there's a Holy Trinity of Sci-Fi my friend: STARtrek :vulcan /STARwars :vaderxmas /STARgate :tealc.

Feathers · May 14, 2009, 08:04:09 AM

Much as I want to agree with you Jaames, I don't think Stargate's ever had quite the level of following enjoyed by the big two Star-series.

I'll have to pick up the ST book too...from memory, I think I read the Nemesis novelisation before I saw the film. Not the case this time!

Rico · May 14, 2009, 08:10:10 AM

I'm a big Stargate fan too, and I don't mean to turn this into a contest or anything, but honestly - STAR TREK and STAR WARS are the big boys. While I'd love to see them do another big, Stargate film, I think for now they will be direct to DVD.

I just found the whole ebbs and flow of Trek and Wars interesting. You know what I'm really hoping is that George Lucas will loosen the reins to Star Wars and lets some hot new director and writers take a crack at a new set of movies in a few years. Something serious, gritty and dark. Like we have gotten in some of the EU novels. It could be awesome. I bet he is looking at Abrams Trek film and scratching his beard and saying, "I wonder if,...." (see below for proof)

Jaames · May 14, 2009, 08:23:24 AM

Quote from: Rico on May 14, 2009, 08:10:10 AM
I'm a big Stargate fan too, and I don't mean to turn this into a contest or anything, but honestly - STAR TREK and STAR WARS are the big boys. While I'd love to see them do another big, Stargate film, I think for now they will be direct to DVD.

They are definitely going to stay direct to DVD for a while, MGM isn't willing to gamble on Stargate's mass audience box office appeal, which I agree is not in the same league as Star Wars and Star Trek (speaking strickly of movies).

But Stargate SG-1 ran for 10 years, no Trek ever made it past 7 years. Plus there's 5 years of Stargate Atlantis and now Stargate Universe will be carrying the Sci-Fi torch for a while (strickly speaking TV). But this is probably a discussion for another thread. :offtopic

Bryancd · May 14, 2009, 08:25:11 AM

It's funny as the only time the two franchises really went head to head was 1982-1983 with TWOK and RoTJ in theaters around the same time. I don't recall there being a real battle, though RoTJ was the much bigger event. In regards to film, Star Wars is and will always be the bigger franchise for obvious reasons.
Saw the movie again last night and it's still awesome. Amazing how the scene where they are evacuating the Kelvin and Kirk is on the bridge is so BSG! Even the music witht he sound of battle turned way down, the camera work, it was identical to what we have seen so many times in Galactica. Nice homage.

Jaames · May 14, 2009, 08:29:14 AM

Quote from: Rico on May 14, 2009, 08:10:10 AM
You know what I'm really hoping is that George Lucas will loosen the reins to Star Wars and lets some hot new director and writers take a crack at a new set of movies in a few years. Something serious, gritty and dark. Like we have gotten in some of the EU novels. It could be awesome. I bet he is looking at Abrams Trek film and scratching his beard and saying, "I wonder if,...." (see below for proof)

That would be great. I did enjoy the prequels (to a certain degree) but I think his storytelling is getting a little long in the tooth (just look at Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull). There are so many fantastic stories out there to be told and he is stuck in the Clone Wars. We've had an animated clone wars series that went 2 seasons (right?), then an animated clone wars movie, another animated clone wars series, and now a live-action clone wars series?!? Come on!

Who's for a Star Wars Thrawn trilogy of movies? :metallica:

Jobydrone · May 14, 2009, 09:30:05 AM

Quote from: Rico on May 13, 2009, 05:45:41 AM
This is cool. The writers describe what they had written for Shatner/Kirk in the new movie. Might have been interesting. A few spoilers for the movie so I put it in this thread.

http://www.mtv.com/videos/movies/380509/what-would-shatners-star-trek-scene-have-been-like.jhtml

That would have been totally awesome. I wonder if Shatner would have agreed to that kind of a cameo appearance. Closing the movie with a scene like that and having Shatner's voice doing the classic opening before the end credits would surely have been worth a mil or two yeah?

Jaames · May 14, 2009, 10:02:08 AM

Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on May 14, 2009, 09:30:05 AM
That would have been totally awesome. I wonder if Shatner would have agreed to that kind of a cameo appearance. Closing the movie with a scene like that and having Shatner's voice doing the classic opening before the end credits would surely have been worth a mil or two yeah?

According to interviews that JJ has done, they did approach Shatner with this, but he wasn't interested in any kind of cameo role.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Shatner-Calls-JJ-Abrams-A-Liar-10240.html

http://www.moviesonline.ca/neobrass/movienews_15558.html

http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/10/19/william-shatner-strikes-back-i-dont-do-cameos/

Rico · May 14, 2009, 10:08:09 AM

I've mentioned it before, but the story from Shatner himself is that a ton of rumors were flying but he was never officially offered a part in the movie. If you listen to the writers, even though they wrote a little scene for him they decided it wasn't the right way to go so they never offered it to him. He may have just turned it down anyway if they did offer it to him. Frankly, I think the movie works fine the way it is.