BSG Season 3- Let's discuss the best show on TV! - some spoilers

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Geekyfanboy

I agree with Cpt Serwin.. I don't think we will see her again and will have to wait till next year when it comes back for the fourth season. I don't think they will drop the storyline.. I just think they are going to make us wait.

jedijeff

Quote from: StarTrekFanatic5 on March 06, 2007, 10:40:38 AM
I really like this theory.. I got it from another group I belong too..

"Yea... Kara's is dead but she had to so she could become an Ancient/Ascended Being (called Seraphs in the Original BSG Universe). This is apparently what happened to Starbuck in BSG 1980 and explains the "Everything that happened once, will happen again"

http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Ship_of_Lights
http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Seraphs_% 28Battlestar_ Galactica% 29


Arrrrrr I was away for a week on holidays, what a week to pick. I had watched this episode well on vacation, and the Starbuck death did not really sink in much. I my solitude for the week (no internet ;)) I also thought of this theory that Kenny Mentioned. I would like to see some more elements of the original tied into the current series.

I havent listened to RDM podcast yet, but Hopefully like Pickard is saying, that he is just trying to throw people off with the Sackoff rumours. I think the show would be really missing something without her Character.

jedijeff

The March 18th episode was Fantastic, and left me with a lot to think about. Next weeks episode looks like it is going to be great, and the 10 month wait afterward is going to feel real long.

Some thoughts

Again, I did not care for Admiral Adama in this episode. His actions in the court room well Lee was questioning Roslyn were out of place for his role as a judge on a tribunal. Clearly he has his mind made up on Baltar, and is not partial. His intimidation of Lee when Lee handed over his rank also was out of line. I found this surprising, as I thought he would be the judge on the tibunal who would have been on the side of impartiality.

Rosylns revelation that the cancer has returned, and that she is again having visions. Looks like next week, Hara will come into the picture again in regards to Roslyns treatment. After what she did to Hara, Sharon/Helo probably will not be interested in helping.

The music that Tigh, Tori and Anders hear, definitely it having an effect on them. I was originally thinking it could be a link to losses that Anders and Tigh have had (Ellen Tigh/Starbuck), but not sure how Tori plays in this. Very interested to find out what it is about.

Cylons following the fleet. I think that the Galactica is being lead into a trap, they will be seperated from the Tylium ship, and stuck with out being able to jump. If what Tigh indicated at the end of the Episode, that it was in the ship, I understand to be that the cylons are tracking the Galactica. At the end of the Episode, the Scene between Helo and Gaeta I found to be interesting. I am getting the feeling that one of them might sell the fleet out. Helos words seemed onimous, and Gaeta has some ties with the cylons from his time he spent in Baltars administration. I dont think either are cylons, but might be working for the cylons for their own reason. Helo seemed very interested in the plan, and Gaeta seemed to be the one devising the plan. I think the tylium ship is a trick for them to think that is the ship being tracked, and to have them split it from the rest of the fleet.

Romo Lampkin, I really like this character. I hope that after this season, that he will appear again in the future. I think he is a good balance against the Military and Administration. They seem to come off with no accountability to the fleet, and Romo seems like he would fit the role as an unofficial representative of the fleet. Plus to he is a greasy guy, and never sure what his angle is. If he appeared now and then like Tom Zarek, I think that would be good. Tom Zarek is good, but Lampkin doesnt have quite the hardedge that zarek does.

moyer777

wow.  BSG was really good last night.  It was back like it was supposed to be.  Very good.

How long are we going to wait for the next season?


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Darkmolerman

"He can't act out of a cardboard box"- Rick Moyer

"I know the answer now sometimes the doctor must look at this planet and look at it in shame" -Gwen Cooper

Rico

I really liked last night's episode too.  I'm not getting why the Admiral is being so hard on Lee - his son.  He really can't afford to lose Lee as CAG and as a pilot.  The Admiral is being pretty dumb and blind here.  He should be smarter than all that.  I really liked Lee/Apollo in this episode.  He has principles and sticks by them.  I agree, the Cylons are leading them all into one big trap again.  Frakking toasters!   :cylon

Jen

I agree with Jeff and Rico. I too failed to grasp why Admiral Adama would go from being proud of his son to calling him a liar and accepting his resignation. He offered him the law books afterall. What the frak?  That was way off kilter from what we know about Adama Sr. What are the writers smoking? They are writing duel personalities for several characters on this show.

That said, I still liked the episode. I was not expecting the curve balls they tossed at us; IE the cancer and poor Ti's admission before the court. They were nice plot twists.

Lee Adama continues to irritate me. What a wimp...does he have a mind of his own? It seems he only does what others suggest.  I think he and daddy need to visit Counselor Troi.

I liked the whole "mysterious music" scenario. Interesting stuff. At first I thought the radio was picking up radio waves from Earth.

Some have offered that Ty, Tori and Anders are Cylons. I think its possible that Tori is a Cylon and that Ty and Anders are some how picking up transmissions that she's unwittingly sending back to the Cylon Fleet.  Ty remains the same old drunk and Anders is still sad Anders, the only one who's different as far as personalities go is Tori. She's the key to this somehow.

The other possibility is that Anders and Ty were implanted when they were imprisoned by the Cylons. They could be the "homing devices" and Tori is a Cylon who is still unaware of the fact she's a Toaster.

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Darkmolerman

"He can't act out of a cardboard box"- Rick Moyer

"I know the answer now sometimes the doctor must look at this planet and look at it in shame" -Gwen Cooper

Dan M

I don't think Adama's overreacting or acting out of character.

Lee is defending the man responsible, in some measure, for the destruction of the human race.  That'd probably tick off any parent.

Obviously, he made a mistake in assuming Lee gave Baltar's defense the info on Ellen, but people on this show always make mistakes.  That's not anything new from the writers.

As to Adama's behaviour as a judge, that seems both inappropriate, and entirely in character.  The only bad writing here is that we're supposed to believe that Adama could have been placed on the tribunal, when he cannot possibly be impartial.

Darkmolerman

Yeah for sure my mom would not like me defending a humanity destroyer.
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Jen

Quote from: pickard on March 19, 2007, 06:05:21 PM
I don't think Adama's overreacting or acting out of character.

Lee is defending the man responsible, in some measure, for the destruction of the human race.  That'd probably tick off any parent.

Obviously, he made a mistake in assuming Lee gave Baltar's defense the info on Ellen, but people on this show always make mistakes.  That's not anything new from the writers.

As to Adama's behaviour as a judge, that seems both inappropriate, and entirely in character.  The only bad writing here is that we're supposed to believe that Adama could have been placed on the tribunal, when he cannot possibly be impartial.

I don't know...I've been shown for the past two years that Admiral Adama loves his son and is proud of him. He has had trouble telling his son that until recently, when they had some sort of relationshiop "break through". Now I'm supposed to believe that Admiral Adama can't believe a word his son says? Lee is an idiot but BSG has never shown him to be a liar. His father should know him better than that.

Don't forget, Admiral Adama asked Lee to do this. He shouldn't be shocked when his son attempts to do the job his dad asked him to do. Lee is supposed to be all about duty...well, up until this last episode when he resigned because Adama questioned his integrety. I guess Admiral Adama never really wanted Lee to do a good job. Maybe he just wanted Lee to sabatoge the defense?
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Dan M

Quote from: Jen on March 19, 2007, 07:38:36 PM
Don't forget, Admiral Adama asked Lee to do this.
Adama never asked Lee to defend Baltar.  He was just supposed to work to set up the system. 
Afterwards, he assigned Lee to be security for Baltar's defense.  That's a long way from assigning him as co-counsel.  I think the admiral was clear about that in the previous episode.

Rico

I love the new Galactica but I do feel the writers have made some bad moves recently.  One of the biggest is this Lee vs. the Admiral thing.  I have two teenage sons.  To call one of them a liar just based on very little info is something I would never do.  That's a very big step.  I don't think the Admiral had nearly enough to justify that.

Yeah - they all hate Baltar.  No one in the fleet really thinks differently.  So basically no one is going to be in court without some preconceived notion.  I think the trial is all kind of a joke.  I mean the episode earlier in the season they were killing people that slightly went along with the Cylons.  Now you have Baltar who everyone knows is a traitor.  Why they just didn't execute him is beyond me.  This isn't peace time.  They are at war.

Anyway, still really enjoy the show.  And if the people of the fleet don't start to frakking work together and stop being babies the Cylons are going to wipe them all out.   :cylon

Dan M

Agreed.  The "liar" part was too far.  But he just found out that his best friend executed his own wife, so he wasn't in the best mood, I imagine.

MrOsterman

Quote from: Rico on March 20, 2007, 05:03:21 AM
And if the people of the fleet don't start to frakking work together and stop being babies the Cylons are going to wipe them all out.   :cylon

Didn't Cally say something to that effect?

I'm wondering if they're deep enough to give us the challenge of what to do if several members of the fleet (Tigh, Tori, Anders) are all implanted with some kind of Cylon Homing beacon.  Is Adama willing to airlock his "brother" for the good of the fleet?

I actually could handle the Adama Vs Adama scrap but that was becuase I think it's showing the ammount of damage this trial is doing.  It's polarizing in the extreme.  We all know that Baltar sold out the Human race on Caprica.  We all know that he was a bit too compliant with the Cylons on New Caprica.  We all know that, really, he was willing to aid the Cylons when he was their guest.  We all know that he could have refused to work with them at any time and while it may have cost him his life, it might have saved more.

But we also all know he's probably going to get off because the prosecutor cannot prove intent, nor can she prove he did much of the direct actions he was appart of.  And I think both Adama's know it.

But Lee is willing to sell it all to be sure he gets "the best" trial, and Bill is dealing with the fact that his son is willing to attack his friend to "make the case".

I think Bill wanted Lee to be interested in the tribunal, but not to stand at Baltar's side.  That Adama is seeing as betrayal.  I think the "liar" comment really wasn't the meat of the issue, it was more of a symptom of their decaying relationship.

Mr. O