iPad mini?

[X]

I'm sorry, reading comprehension has failed you guys! :) I said it was priced too high.

"Now I am saying this is priced too high, not by a lot, but a $299 number would have really hit it out of the park and provide a solid $100 price differential to the iPad2 which is still for sale."

I AM SAYING THIS IS PRICED TOO HIGH.  :old_bash:

I know what you said Bryan and I agreed with you. Hell everyone is pretty much agreed on this one. I think the others are just shocked that you agreed or scared that jamie posted under your name on accident.

[QuadShot]

Yeah, but the floppy, for all it's greatness was not as useful as a DVD or CD. I could never go to the store and purchase a movie on floppy. And DVD's and CD's are still in mass production. It's not like they can single handedly stop people from watching DVD's right away, or from wanting to burn discs. What about those who rely on their machines to produce DVD's or like, in our case, musical photo slide shows for customers from time to time? Apple pretty much is telling me that I either have to keep my old iMac, or purchase an additional add-on for a new iMac. And isn't the crap of purchasing something else what's pissing people off about the new iPhone? The whole power/sync cable?

[X]

Yeah, but the floppy, for all it's greatness was not as useful as a DVD or CD. I could never go to the store and purchase a movie on floppy. And DVD's and CD's are still in mass production. It's not like they can single handedly stop people from watching DVD's right away, or from wanting to burn discs. What about those who rely on their machines to produce DVD's or like, in our case, musical photo slide shows for customers from time to time? Apple pretty much is telling me that I either have to keep my old iMac, or purchase an additional add-on for a new iMac. And isn't the crap of purchasing something else what's pissing people off about the new iPhone? The whole power/sync cable?

At the end of the day, Apple products aren't for people that want to customize their systems and tweak their things. It's so everyone can have the same experience. If you see something you like on another iDevice like yours, you can get it too. It's designed so that everyone that gets it can be the same as everyone else, even if they think it makes them stand out.

When I buy any stock PC system, I gut it and add a heavier power supply and setup for a more powerful video card. All still coming in under the price of a mac that does less.

here is the thing I am seeing. Most people are happy being part of the herd if they can still think that they are some how special. Apple lets the common and the tech illiterate feel like they are special and part of something. Even if the tech behind it isn't a good as it could be.

Apple products are magic boxes that you take as is. The stuff that they don't include is stuff that most common folk that don't know the difference between ram and rom would ever use.

[Bryancd]

At the end of the day, Apple products aren't for people that want to customize their systems and tweak their things. It's so everyone can have the same experience. If you see something you like on another iDevice like yours, you can get it too. It's designed so that everyone that gets it can be the same as everyone else, even if they think it makes them stand out.

When I buy any stock PC system, I gut it and add a heavier power supply and setup for a more powerful video card. All still coming in under the price of a mac that does less.

here is the thing I am seeing. Most people are happy being part of the herd if they can still think that they are some how special. Apple lets the common and the tech illiterate feel like they are special and part of something. Even if the tech behind it isn't a good as it could be.

Apple products are magic boxes that you take as is. The stuff that they don't include is stuff that most common folk that don't know the difference between ram and rom would ever use.

Wow, parts of this are spot on and other parts are insufferably condescending. I'll leave it to you to decide which is which.

[X]

LOL! I didn't mean to be condescending, but I think that Apple is good at what they do, but for me looking from the outside in, it looks like they dumb things down to my perspective.

I think that Apple is great for what they do, but it's just not for me. Many people don't care how something works as long as it works. I like knowing the ins and outs. I like knowing how to fix my breaks or skin a deer even if I choose to pay for the job or go grocery shopping.

[Dangelus]

Apple dumbing things down? Never! ;)

[MARKO]

ordered the black 32GB...

[Jobydrone]

ordered the black 32GB...

Awesome, when do you get it?  I mean..."Moooo...."

[Coda]

Bryan....I just got back from vacation. Reading comp isn't where it should be I guess. My apologies.

Coda, yes Apple products are priced high but in general you get superior products. How many Windows machines can you say still function extremely well 3,4 even 8+ years after purchase? I say none. But for me, Apple has begun a slight downward turn of late. Like the are trying to nickel and dime us now.

Hi Quadshot!

Thanks for your insight, but um, I ran Windows XP ever since it's inception until last year.  I have a Dell Inspiron 8000 from about 2001 that I'm still using with Ubuntu.  I've had my current quad core machine for about 5 years now, and it's still running great on Windows 7.  I've never seen a mac run for longer than 3-4 years let alone 8+ years.  And also, for that high of a price of a machine, they'd BETTER run at least that long!

I used a macpro at work that was on 24/7 and it worked fine for a little more than a year and it died.  Don't know what hardware failed, but they weren't the hard drives.  I swapped out the drives to a new machine and worked fine for the next two years.  I don't doubt the build quality of the machine, but for that price, I could get 2-3 PCs with constant upgrades to the latest and greatest for the cost and lifespan of ONE mac machine.  And with Apple always changing their tech, your mac will be obsolete in 2 years, unfortunately.

Of course, if I won the lottery, I would have all the Apple products in my house....  ;D

[Dangelus]

I would agree with that with Apple you get superior products overall taking into account the design and finish and that fact that controlling what hardware officially runs on your OS helps keep your software stable. In terms of hardware like for like Apple can be extremely overpriced but most people who make that argument don't factor in the above mentioned benefits that you are paying for.
I've built hackintoshes out of 4 year old PC hardware that ran OS X fast and great but in the end you have to keep an eye on compatibility and believe me it will kernel panic as fast as XP in that situation! :)

[KingIsaacLinksr]

Yeah, I have to agree with Coda about the life of Windows PCs. As much as I've ragged on them for having their...problems...my parent's XP machine is still running after 8+ years of service. And we had a Windows 95 machine still running until last year when we got rid of it. And yeah, that machine would still turn on and function like it always did.

I can't really say how long Mac machines run, as I don't know anyone who has kept a Mac for that many years. But I've seen plenty of Windows machines that run for years beyond what I consider possible. Now, Laptops, those machines do not last nearly so long. You'll be lucky to get 5 years out of them, on both Windows and Mac. They just don't hold up.

Granted, Machines that are that old can't do the tasks that modern machines can so you'll need to upgrade or get a new one sooner or later.

[Dangelus]

Part of the problem with Apple computers and laptops in general is that there aren't designed to be user serviceable and so give the impression that the don't last as long. This may be true but for traditional pcs it is a lot easier to replace components yourself so if your graphics card, ram, hard drive pack in you can keep the machine going for a lot longer. Also upgrades are easier.

The fact that traditional pcs are big boxes helps too. iMacs and mac books are packed in tight for style which isn't great for component lifespan.

[Rico]

OMG this is so funny - and so true!

Banned iPad mini Promo

[Bryancd]

ROTFLMAO!!!!!

[Ktrek]

That was hilarious Rico! What makes it so funny is it's truth.

Kevin