LOST - Season Three, second half (might contain spoliers)

[Geekyfanboy]

Well I just finished the new episode and I have to say... it was okay, it wasn't bad just not great. After last weeks this one was pretty much a set up to bring the new person to the island. I did like the beginning with Charlie getting the arrow through the throat, when it happened I kept saying it was a Desmond dream.. but then for a moment I thought Holy Crap they just killed Charlie. I can see them doing it quick and not make a big deal about it. But then we find out it was a dream but when it was actually going to happen I almost thought Desmond was going to let it happen. Only five more episode till the finale.

[JoSpiv]

Yeah I agree.  i liked it.

I think this is the first time in a very long time I cared more about the flashback than I did about what was going on on the Island.  Desmond definelty has had an interesting life.

On a side note, that scene with Sawyer walking in on Kate was not bad.  not bad at all. :)

[jedijeff]

I liked last nights episode, though it probably was not as strong as some of the others lately. I am really liking Desmond and his character, so the back story was interesting to me in finding out more about him. Will be interested in finding out about the parachuter. I must admit this whole Kate and Sawyer/Jack thing is Waring a little thin on me. I love Lost, but really don't care if Kate hooks up with Jack or Sawyer, there are other things on the island more interesting to me. I think they could spend a whole episode on Vincent, and that would be infinitely more interesting to me, then whatever they are doing with Kate/Jack/Sawyer love triangle. On the Podcast, they revealed that a story is upcoming on the Dharma initiative, so looking forward to that.

[Locutus]

The last episode was a device to bring the person to the island, but it also answered a couple of questions, and set up a few more. Like, now we know the island can be found. And that the purple sky event allowed the island to be seen at least for a second, and tracked. Also, why Desmond says "Brother" all the time, and how he sees his visions. Also, it developed his character, that he is willing to sacrifice himself to save others, cementing what we saw in last season's finale. Yes, it wasn't as stellar as episode as some of the previous ones, but still good, and IMHO, important.

And I'd walk in on Kate any day.

[JoSpiv]

Something interesting is that it seems anything that arrives at, or around the island gets destroyed.

Henry Gales Balloon, Flight 815, The Beachcraft plane, Danielle's boat, Desmonds boat, this helicopter(if it was one).   

Gives a little more credence to Ben's claim that the sub is the only way on and off the island.  Although I don't know if I beleive him.

[Geekyfanboy]

We only have a few episode left for this season.. I hope we get some major answers.

[jedijeff]

Yes, a few more this year, so hopefully lots of Answers. The Official Podcasts have been hinting at some answers, as well this evenings lost, we will find out who the Father of Suns Baby is, though I am not sure if that is a real major answer .

[jedijeff]

Wow, a few surprises tonight on Lost. The main Story about Sun I did not find overly interesting, and thought at the end it would be revealed that Sun conceived on the Island. The second story with the Mystery guest was much more interesting. Definitely surprised to see Patchy as he looked very Dead when Locke pushed him through the Fence, so really want to find out more about him. The revelation at the end of the show that 815 was found and all killed is surprising, not really sure what to make of it. Thinking of a coverup, but seems really big undertaking for Dharma. Definitely want to find out more. Things look like they are really heating up.

[Geekyfanboy]

I agree with jeff... wow is right. But unlike jeff I liked the Sun story.. I have always liked their story and it was great finding out that the father is Jin. So Sun has two months to live, which in Lost time can take two seasons.  Can't wait to see what happens there. I was really surprised when Patchy walked out of the forrest.. not sure what happen there. Maybe the fence knocks you out and doesn't kill you but I agree he looked dead when he hit that fence. And of course the big surprise was when the mystery woman said that flight 815 was found and all were dead... I think I said WHAT the same time Hurley said it.

Only a few more episodes left before the season finale.. I hope they answer majors questions for the season's over.

[JoSpiv]

I liked this episode.  I also have always liked the Sun/Jin episodes.  I think it's helped by the fact that both of them are such amazing actors. 

The scene between Sun and Mr. Kwon was so amazing, and so nice.   As for the big reveal.  This opens a whole new can of worms.  I see this going one of two ways.  Either it's a massive cover-up, and someone(probably Dharma) staged the crash elsewhere so no one would come to, or look for the island.  OR at some point during the flight there was a tear in the space-time continum and two flight 815s were created.  One crashed on the island like we saw, and another crashed somewhere else.

As a sci-fi fan, the 2nd one would be so cool, but I don't think they'll go that route.  I hear a lot of people saying this proves they are in purgatory.  I still say no to that.  It's that true, how did Juliet get there?  And that's only one small hole in the purgatory argument.

[markinro]

SPOILERS AHEAD...

I'm probably going to get some disagreement on this. 

I have watched this show from the start.   Season 1 was great -- mostly because it was new and fresh.   Season 2 was one of those "Oh, come on - answer some questions already".  I didn't watch season 3 at the start.  Missed maybe 3 episodes.  I have been watching faithfully since the show came back after the lengthy break.   I'm not sure if its a good comparison but Heroes is similar in premise with the multiple story lines each having their own mystery.  The only difference -- Heroes is answering my questions.   JJ Abrams titled the show "Lost" for a very good reason -- I just didn't expect the title to apply to me.

Last weeks episode started me in another direction -- the "others" should not be trusted -- none of them.   Last nights episode solidified this direction.  I knew Juliet was lying - just not sure how/why.  I would not go anywhere with those people.  For a sec, I thought Sun would need to go back inside and overhear Juliets message to Ben -- that would have been great.  I do suspect that Juliets traitorous activity will be discovered at the end of this season.

The best analogy I have -- its like every Wed, I am eating a hot dog.   There's a little that is actually good for you but the rest is just useless fillers.   :laugh:

Thank goodness we have Hurley.  I love the comic relief he adds.   With a few words, he speaks volumes -- "Ooops", "What ?" were great lines.   I hope Sawyer finds out that he is a multi-millionaire.

My fav characters: Sayid, Kate, Sawyer, Hurley, Sun/Jin (finally - he showed his moves) and Charley.

They almost "lost" me as a viewer last year - hope this year does not repeat.

[JoSpiv]

I've had the Heroes vs. Lost discussion before.

For me Lost always wins out.  I think mainly cause for me, the journey is more exciting than the destination.  Lost is about the mystery, and all the hidden connections between these strangers.  Heroes seems to be more about the final destination.   

Plus, the 1st season of Lost was brilliant.  And thinking back on it, we had no idea how deep the rabbit hole went. 

While I like Heroes, it always seemed like Lost-lite.

[Rico]

The show is still ok in my book - but like many have said, I do think LOST hasn't kind of "lost" it's way a bit.  Last night's story was ok and I figured Sun's baby would of been conceived after they got on the island (it wouldn't of been much of a story if it was pre-island).  I really like the actors on LOST and the characters for the most part - that's what keeps me coming back.  It was like this for ALIAS for me at the end too (another Abrams show).  I do think next year will end the series.  Hopefully the journey will of been worth it.

P.S.  As for what is really going on - the people who run the show have said many times that there is a logical, scientific answer for everything on the island.  I'm not sure I still believe that.

[jedijeff]

I was thinking about this episode more at work today, and have so many theories running through my head. I was thinking from a more Sci Fi view point, that they are in an alternate reality possibly, and that Desmond is a link between the two reality's possibly. But that is probably just wild speculation on my part. Also I still remember Desmond Telling Jack in the Flashback from season 1 about seeing him in another life, and I dont think that was a throw away line. I was also thinking after seeing Patchy, and he confirmation on how people heal fast, that Boone maybe Boone would not have died, if they would have known what they might know now. Might say the Same for Libby, Anna and Shannon, though they were shot. I am also guessing Ms Clugh who Patchy shot will be around as well.
I guess I should clarify a bit on the Sun/Jin story, I guess mid way through the story, I knew that the reveal on the Lady extorting Sun would be Jins mother, so I guess when that ended that flashback, it left me disappointed that I figured it out so easy. This story does make me much more sympathetic to Jin, as he was basically put in the situation because Sun took the money from her Father. I think next season will be important for Sun, as I suspect a good portion of it will deal with her carrying the baby and will she live or not. I found the other Story with Patchy and Des/Hurly/Jin/Charlie more interesting, though I do see where this Sun/Jin story will probably be important next year. I guess finding out who was the father of Suns baby was not on the top of my list of answers to be solved.

[Locutus]

I think maybe you guys are missing a couple of the big reveals in this episode:

1) Juliet knew Jin was pregnant, or else why would they have left that recorder in the locker? She obviously knew that they would be heading that direction sooner or later.
2) Juliet also knows Kate is pregnant.
3) Juliet's motives are even more suspect now, and her character development is just a tiny bit deeper, since we know she is sincere in hating Ben, and may try to get out of betraying the losties.
4) If the fence doesn't kill, or may not even exist, how did it stop smokey? (Maybe just what they said, still ...)
5) If everyone on the flight "died" then who are all of the people on the island? (My vote is that they crashed a couple of years ago, and that the others have been doing brainwashing experiments on them, and memory experiments, which is why everyone's back story crosses here and there, even if they really didn't prior to the crash. ) (I don't think anyone missed this clue, I just threw this one in to espouse my viewpoint. :) )