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[Bryancd]

Don't worry, K'arath, K'Tan, and D'Callan will have all the Borg wiped out shortly....... ;)

[Meds]

They are like Zombies, coming and coming and coming. Good point Jen, Just thinking though, how could they adapt to a blade? hmmm, me thinks we have hit upon a snag in the trek universe. ha ha ha

[X]

They are like Zombies, coming and coming and coming. Good point Jen, Just thinking though, how could they adapt to a blade? hmmm, me thinks we have hit upon a snag in the trek universe. ha ha ha

They have forcefield. Forcefield are known to deflect physical attacks. If you think about the holding cells on a federation ship, I think it becomes clear.

I also believe that Worf managed to cut one of the Borg, not because it's constantly possible, but because the script needed a way to solve the whole threat and leaking air suit.

I think that the nature of the Borg was a bit weakened in first contact, but given that it did happen, if blade were a true option in combating the Borg, Starfleet would have briefed their captains on the solution and armed the troops with bladed weapons. If Voyager is a good example, then it just might be a flub or script necessity that bladed weapons worked that one time in First Contact.

Another thing to consider is that if bladed weapon were that great of an advantage, then the races with hand weapon training should have few to none assimilated people. Again, that was proven false in the Voyager episodes.

That's just my two cents. If Blades work and blades are the first real technology that cultures develop ... the Borg would not have gotten that far at all.

[Meds]

Boo! I thought i was onto something there ha ha. ;)

[wraith1701]

In my opinion, the Borg can't be beaten by physical force.  Because of their hive-mind, cutting down a drone is almost like one of us cutting our hair-- more will grow to replace what is lost.  And as horrible as it sounds, each drone has about as much self awareness as a strand of hair (I know, it's an exaggeration, but you get the idea). 

I think that the only way to truly defeat the Borg would be to attack their mind, or programming.  Something like a computer virus, or a telepathic attack (or both).

Speaking of Telepaths, nice post Kenny!

The plot thickens-  Who is the Borg King?  Will it be someone we recognize?  Can't wait to find out!

[Bryancd]

But a forcefield that could stop a physical weapon as opposed to an energy weapon would also prevent physical contact, so they couldn't grab you. It's kind of like DUNE... ;)

[Meds]

Dun dun durrrrrrrrrrr

[X]

But a forcefield that could stop a physical weapon as opposed to an energy weapon would also prevent physical contact, so they couldn't grab you. It's kind of like DUNE... ;)

Sure it can. The Borg doesn't need to keep the forcefield active. it can pop up during an attack. Even without the forcefield, they have armor on that is better than a lot of things, consider that the phasers have to be on the highest setting to knock them down and other would be vaporized, that's some good armor.

I don't think that they would have gotten as far as they did if physical attacks were all that dangerous to the borg. I also think that for someone to get that close to a borg to inflict physical damage, they might be assimilated. I have yet to see a borg die onscreen from a single blow. Lose a limb? sure, but not die and that means they could infect someone.

[Meds]

Hmmm Its only a flesh wound, come back or i'll bite your legs off. ;)

[wraith1701]

But a forcefield that could stop a physical weapon as opposed to an energy weapon would also prevent physical contact, so they couldn't grab you. It's kind of like DUNE... ;)

That's a good point.  Heck; the most effective weapon for mowing down the drones would probably be projectile weapons, like the machine gun Picard used in First Contact.  Borg shields might hold off a few bullets, but they couldn't keep their shields up forever...
My point was that even if you could wipe out the drones by the hundreds, the losses wouldn't discourage or demoralize the Borg.  Like Jen mentioned; they are relentless.  They would just keep on sending in more drones.  And if we somehow managed to wipe out the thousands of drones in one Borg ship, they would just send out more ships.  

In the Trek Universe, I think the writers intended the Borg to be the one bad guy that you can never truly beat.  You might hold them off for a while, but never eliminate them for good.  That's what makes them such scary opponents.

[KingIsaacLinksr]

Hmmm Its only a flesh wound, come back or i'll bite your legs off. ;)

Funny, I was thinking the same thing...

King

[Bryancd]

It's Star

But a forcefield that could stop a physical weapon as opposed to an energy weapon would also prevent physical contact, so they couldn't grab you. It's kind of like DUNE... ;)

Sure it can. The Borg doesn't need to keep the forcefield active. it can pop up during an attack. Even without the forcefield, they have armor on that is better than a lot of things, consider that the phasers have to be on the highest setting to knock them down and other would be vaporized, that's some good armor.

I don't think that they would have gotten as far as they did if physical attacks were all that dangerous to the borg. I also think that for someone to get that close to a borg to inflict physical damage, they might be assimilated. I have yet to see a borg die onscreen from a single blow. Lose a limb? sure, but not die and that means they could infect someone.

LOL! It's Star Trek, I don't think they thought all this out. ;)

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LOL! It's Star Trek, I don't think they thought all this out. ;)

I think that's partly true, but we also need to adapt the Borg to serve our story needs. We have at or around 160 people on the ship. They didn't send the entire sphere to attack the ship and if we wish to keep the Borg a threat during the escape, they should be able to survive being on the Arabella for more than a few minutes. They didn't send 100 borg to take the ship and if dozens are falling, how many will be able to keep the plot moving for the rest of the story?

I agree with Eric about the sheer number of drones being a serious threat, but I also think that for them to incorporate weapons, personal armor, and personal shields, they do place some value on their drones. They can handle the loss with ease, but I think that they would rather leave a target ship or planet with more Borg than they started with.

As to the holodeck scene, some people consider that a huge flub because other holodeck episodes had established that the rounds from a holo projectile weapon were holograms, which would make it energy and thus subject to assimilation.

[Jen]

OK... It's our version of Star Trek so we can all make it what we want. Point is to keep them scary as long as possible. :) So if they keep coming at us that makes them a relentless wave of zombies that want to eat your brains....I mean assimilate you. They can't beam more drones over, so that means that our crew would have to be the new threat as far as drones are concerned. I think it would be interesting to see how our characters treat the assimilated crew. Margon for instance. What will you do when you happen upon Borg Margon?!

[Meds]

Borg Margon, where do i get my drink now. ;)