Which ship would win in a fight

[Blackride]

The main trouble with this discussion is Star Trek tries to be Science Fiction and loosely based on scientific concepts.  Star Wars is pure space fantasy and therefore can do pretty much whatever it wants.  I love both franchises dearly, but I will have to side with Starfleet vessels winning every time.

Science can not beat out George Lucas's mind :)  jk

[wraith1701]

No one has mentioned a technology that is exclusive to the Star Trek universe- transporters.

Picard could simply have the transporter room lock on to all life signs present on the bridge of the Star Destroyer, and beam them into space.  Repeat as needed.

[Blackride]

No one has mentioned a technology that is exclusive to the Star Trek universe- transporters.

Picard could simply have the transporter room lock on to all life signs present on the bridge of the Star Destroyer, and beam them into space.  Repeat as needed.

Force Fields?

[wraith1701]

No one has mentioned a technology that is exclusive to the Star Trek universe- transporters.

Picard could simply have the transporter room lock on to all life signs present on the bridge of the Star Destroyer, and beam them into space.  Repeat as needed.

Force Fields?

I don't think that they are constantly active on ships in the Star Wars universe.  After all, the Falcon had no problem not only approaching, but making physical contact with (and hitching a ride on) the hull of a Destroyer in Empire Strikes Back.  And as we saw in Jedi, individual starfighters had no problem smashing into the bridge of a star destroyer.

[Geekyfanboy]

good call Wraith.. beam them all into space.. that's an easy win.

[3 Ducks in a Man Costume]

Science can not beat out George Lucas's mind :)  jk

j/k? heresy!

[Jen]

No one has mentioned a technology that is exclusive to the Star Trek universe- transporters.

Picard could simply have the transporter room lock on to all life signs present on the bridge of the Star Destroyer, and beam them into space.  Repeat as needed.

I considered that as well...but the Federation has ethics and morals...They couldn't/wouldn't do that to an entire crew. And wouldn't all their power be used for shields and phaser banks? Beaming an entire crew off the Star Destroyer would sap a lot of valuable energy needed to defend themselves from the hoards of Ti Fighters among other things.

[billybob476]

EDIT: Also, the ships in Star Wars are much, much faster (at least in hyperdrive) than Star Trek ships. You've got Star Wars ships routinely crossing from one side of the galaxy to the other in a matter of days or weeks, whereas in Star Trek, to get from the outer edge of the Delta Quadrant to the Alpha it would take Voyage 70 years to get back, using their normal warp capabilities. We've got to assume the Galaxy ship in this battle doesn't have transwarp or any of that nonsense. If the SD needed to run away and regroup, it would have no trouble in doing so.

I was under the impression Star Wars hyperdrives were much much slower then warp. Han Solo mentions the Falcon can do "0.5 past lightspeed" which I believe means it can go 1.5 x the speed of light. The speed of light is somewhere around warp 1 (not exactly warp 1 if I remember right) and the scale is kind of logarithmic until it approaches warp 10 where it changes to exponential.

I gotta go read that technical manual again.

[3 Ducks in a Man Costume]

EDIT: Also, the ships in Star Wars are much, much faster (at least in hyperdrive) than Star Trek ships. You've got Star Wars ships routinely crossing from one side of the galaxy to the other in a matter of days or weeks, whereas in Star Trek, to get from the outer edge of the Delta Quadrant to the Alpha it would take Voyage 70 years to get back, using their normal warp capabilities. We've got to assume the Galaxy ship in this battle doesn't have transwarp or any of that nonsense. If the SD needed to run away and regroup, it would have no trouble in doing so.

I was under the impression Star Wars hyperdrives were much much slower then warp. Han Solo mentions the Falcon can do "0.5 past lightspeed" which I believe means it can go 1.5 x the speed of light. The speed of light is somewhere around warp 1 (not exactly warp 1 if I remember right) and the scale is kind of logarithmic until it approaches warp 10 where it changes to exponential.

I gotta go read that technical manual again.

Again, it's not so much in the technical details, because different tech terms mean completely different things in each universe. Instead, you've got to look at the actual results. In this case, it's actual distance traveled

[Darth Gaos]

What an awesome and fun topic.  Here is my 2 cents that may be somewhat logical but is also given with tongue planted firmly in cheek.

No one has yet taken into account the time factor.  The Enterprise D is a product of the 24th Century.  Star Wars takes place "A long time ago in a GFFA".  IMO it is safe to assume that any race that had FTL travel and turbolasers "a long time ago" has not hit a scientific dead-end with no advancements in technology.  Therefore how would the Enterprise D fare against GFFA technology in a comparable time period?  I ask you that? HMMMMMM?

A bit off topic...well not off topic but a tangent...I always found it humorous that the term "Federation Starship" was used a few times in Attack of the Clones and used to reference the "enemy"...I always thought that was a good natured barb at the "competition".

[Geekyfanboy]

A bit off topic...well not off topic but a tangent...I always found it humorous that the term "Federation Starship" was used a few times in Attack of the Clones and used to reference the "enemy"...I always thought that was a good natured barb at the "competition".

Paramount sued Fox over the use of that term.. not sure what the outcome was.

[billybob476]

A bit off topic...well not off topic but a tangent...I always found it humorous that the term "Federation Starship" was used a few times in Attack of the Clones and used to reference the "enemy"...I always thought that was a good natured barb at the "competition".

Paramount sued Fox over the use of that term.. not sure what the outcome was.

Probably nothing, you can't really copyright the notion of a federation.

[Dan M]

A bit off topic...well not off topic but a tangent...I always found it humorous that the term "Federation Starship" was used a few times in Attack of the Clones and used to reference the "enemy"...I always thought that was a good natured barb at the "competition".

Paramount sued Fox over the use of that term.. not sure what the outcome was.

I never heard that.  Interesting.  (Wouldn't they sue Lucasfilm primarily?  Fox was just the films distributor.)  That was a silly movie, as billybob said, it's a pretty generic term.

[KingIsaacLinksr]

Yea, my ears pricked up when I heard the Federation Starship usage.  But I had no problems over it.  Though I'll bet Lucas made it happen so that he needled Star Trek.  He'll never admit it though lol.

King Linksr

[PepperDude]

I also tend to think that a Federation ship would beat any Star Wars ship.

Beaming an entire crew off the Star Destroyer would sap a lot of valuable energy needed to defend themselves from the hoards of Ti Fighters among other things.

I think all a Federation ship needs to do is beam out all the personnel from the bridge--maybe a dozen or so people. Shouldn't take too much energy or time. Is it ethical? Sure--what's the difference between killing them in the vacuum of space or killing them with photon torpedoes?

It'd be very cool to see the Defiant going against Ti Fighters. Hey didn't Starfleet field small fighters in their final fight against the Dominion? It'd also be cool to see those fighters do battle with Ti fighters.

I agree with your Lucas comment Kinglinksr. Does Lucas like Star Trek anyway?