Star Trek Online

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billybob476

Also with regard to WoW, it wouldn't really make much of a difference in my mind. What would it gain them, 100,000 new subsscirbers? 500,000 even? Maybe even 1 million? Not sure if that would be worth the development time and the additional support staff needed.

Champions Online is doing it, but it was designed from the group up that way. Ideally you are supposed to play the game with a gamepad, even on your PC.

Rico

Quote from: Just X on September 23, 2009, 12:26:09 PM
Quote from: Rico on September 23, 2009, 11:39:13 AM
Yeah, I think I heard similar "wishful thinking" talk.  I still highly doubt both that it will happen and even if it does, it won't be anywhere near the same game.  I've followed gaming for a very long time and they "talk" about wanting to do a great deal, but it rarely happens like they say.  This Trek MMO would have to be a HUGE hit for them to even consider it.  Look at it this way, World of Warcraft is a mega hit and it isn't on any console.  One of the biggest issues is the hardware in consoles currently isn't up to the task of what a modern PC game needs.  Again, this is just based on what I have seen over the years.  I really doubt we will see it happen.
I think it all depends on the deal. Everquest became a console game before it dried up in popularity.

Not exactly.  I beta tested and played that console game  (along with playing EQ for about 5 years).  The console version was a very different and "dumbed down" version of the game.  It wasn't "Everquest" and you were not playing with the people in the PC MMO game at all.  So again, I doubt we will see "Star Trek: Online" on a console.  Perhaps a "dumbed down" version one day, but I even doubt that at this point.

Jen

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Quote from: billybob476 on September 23, 2009, 12:33:48 PM
Also with regard to WoW, it wouldn't really make much of a difference in my mind. What would it gain them, 100,000 new subsscirbers? 500,000 even? Maybe even 1 million? Not sure if that would be worth the development time and the additional support staff needed.

Champions Online is doing it, but it was designed from the group up that way. Ideally you are supposed to play the game with a gamepad, even on your PC.

I think they'd do whatever they could to gain the numbers that WoW has. I know I'm not an MMO player and I don't know jack about it, but I do think it will happen. It's a natural progression. If it will bring them more money they'll seriously consider it. But my original question was whether or not they had announced which console they were considering...I guess they haven't said anymore on that because they're focusing on the release of the PC version.
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Feathers

Quote from: Jen on September 23, 2009, 03:19:34 PM
I think they'd do whatever they could to gain the numbers that WoW has. I know I'm not an MMO player and I don't know jack about it, but I do think it will happen. It's a natural progression. If it will bring them more money they'll seriously consider it.

It will probably bring in more but how much will it cost to port it to a new platform? I think you're still talking serious investment to reinvent something for new hardware so that cost has to be covered before any sort of profit can be realised.

...hang on, I'm commenting on a game thread...sorry... :-[

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Rico

Quote from: Feathers on September 23, 2009, 03:27:46 PM
Quote from: Jen on September 23, 2009, 03:19:34 PM
I think they'd do whatever they could to gain the numbers that WoW has. I know I'm not an MMO player and I don't know jack about it, but I do think it will happen. It's a natural progression. If it will bring them more money they'll seriously consider it.

It will probably bring in more but how much will it cost to port it to a new platform? I think you're still talking serious investment to reinvent something for new hardware so that cost has to be covered before any sort of profit can be realised.

...hang on, I'm commenting on a game thread...sorry... :-[

Yes - this is my point exactly.  It most likely won't happen because the cost will be huge.  It would basically need to be a whole new game.  Very few primarily PC games get moved to consoles - very few.  And if they do, they typically are things like shooters and so on.  Console games move to PC's, but generally not the other way around.  And certainly not an MMO.  No one has ever done it (that Everquest game doesn't count - it was entirely new game).  Could it make them a little more money, very doubtful when you factor in the costs.  Trust me on this.  And frankly, you really don't want to play an MMO on a TV.  The resolution isn't there and it isn't made for this type of game.

KingIsaacLinksr

Eve Online is coming to console...ish.  (Well, I should say they are adding it into their repertoire).  So its not totally out of the question.  Its a FPS that will affect the PC MMO.  Its rather cool idea though.  Although admittedly, to get every single complex detail of a PC MMO to a Console at this time is rather difficult/impossible. 

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Jobydrone

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I played Everquest Online Adventures on PS2 as well, as a beta tester and paid subscriber.  It was super fun but never caught on.  I never heard of the servers shutting down so I wonder if there are still people playing that game.  They even came out with an sequel that expanded the world and offered some gameplay improvements but by that time WoW was out and the flood of players from all versions of Everquest had begun.  That was my first experience with an MMO, unless you count Phantasy Star Online on the Dreamcast.

A PS3 port of Star Trek Online makes the most sense because of native support for USB peripherals like blue tooth headsets and keyboards.  I certainly don't see it happening on 360 because of the added cost of Xbox Live, unless they perhaps allow Star Trek to be playable for silver members.  I can't imagine people agreeing to pay 50 bucks or more for a gold subscription then an added cost to play Star Trek online.

Then again, the Windows operating system and Xbox 360 are supposed to be very similar animals, which is why you used to see so many 360 games released under the Games for windows branding.  This might make a console port easier to manage on the 360.  So it is hard to say what will happen.

It will be interesting to see what happens when DC Universe Online gets off the ground.  Sony Online Entertainment seems to be getting behind this release and it looks like it might be serious fun.  Another recent announcement is Final Fantasy XIV, which will be an MMO as well and will most likely lift alot more from WoW than eleven did.  You just have to know that Sony and Microsoft see the subscription based MMO genre as being a potential gold mine for their consoles that is so far untouched.  It will happen eventually, and a popular license like Star Wars or Marvel/DC is probably what it will take for this to break.  I'm not sure that Star Trek has the mass appeal needed to bring people in the numbers needed to make it financially viable.
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Jen

Quote from: Rico on September 23, 2009, 03:54:40 PM
Quote from: Feathers on September 23, 2009, 03:27:46 PM
Quote from: Jen on September 23, 2009, 03:19:34 PM
I think they'd do whatever they could to gain the numbers that WoW has. I know I'm not an MMO player and I don't know jack about it, but I do think it will happen. It's a natural progression. If it will bring them more money they'll seriously consider it.

It will probably bring in more but how much will it cost to port it to a new platform? I think you're still talking serious investment to reinvent something for new hardware so that cost has to be covered before any sort of profit can be realised.

...hang on, I'm commenting on a game thread...sorry... :-[
And frankly, you really don't want to play an MMO on a TV.  The resolution isn't there and it isn't made for this type of game.

Well...actually...I'm playing the original KOTOR right now on my 360, it's not even a 360 game...and the graphics are pretty crap since it's not designed for the system I'm playing it on. But it's not the graphics or the resolution that entice me to play this game for the fifth time all the way through. It's the story. I'm weird like that. :) 
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Rico

Buy a laptop Jen.  Then you can sit in a comfy spot and play anything!  ;)

Jen

Quote from: Rico on September 24, 2009, 10:52:32 AM
Buy a laptop Jen.  Then you can sit in a comfy spot and play anything!  ;)

Got one. ...a big one for editing Anomaly and the audio dramas... I get a crick in my neck staring at it for too long. :D You know I'm just making excuses why I'd rather play on my console. I like the controller better too. A girl can wish can't she? Let me wish... ;) :D

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Jaames

Quote from: Rico on October 16, 2009, 05:11:42 AM
New trailer!  Especially for the Klingon fans out there....

Looks AWESOME! But the voice acting seems a little cheesy, probably not much of that in the actual game though.

Rico

This is pretty interesting on the recent history going on in the game....

Star Trek Online - Future Past: Part One - TGN

billybob476

Wow...ok, now I'm starting to get excited about this.

Jobydrone

anybody heard anything about the beta yet?  This game is supposedly due in February, a short beta testing period doesn't bode well.
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