"STAR TREK" movie comments/reviews (spoilers)

[Bryancd]

Yeah, I can. If they take out some decks for the pipes, three stories still seems VAST and that's only 3 stories. Say that it's 5 stories and closer near the dish. We know they landed in engineering, but we don't know the part. What if engineering doesn't have floors at the normal spacing. The pretty is saved for the saucer where people live and the gritty is in the engineering section where you don't have to be pretty.

At least 5 stories high but it's more the depth I am talking about. In the long shots, you can see waaay back to a far wall that's not even the start of the shuttle deck. I love sci-fi ships, still build models to this day. It's stuff like this that always bugs me in any production where I can't reconcile scale properly.  :confused

[Bryancd]

The sequence was enhanced by that phone call he receives in the 'vette from what I think was his uncle or other relative who's care he was in. Sounded like not a lot of love lost there. I also like the premise that McCoy was leaving Earth after also losing everything in a divorce. You can see how that commonality could create a bond between them and eventually the loner Vulcan in Spock. Somehow I recall in TOS that McCoy had a similar background story which I don't remember if it was ever expressed on screen or was something I had read.

In TOS we find out that he was a great starfleet doc, but his wife left him.

That's right, that's what I recalled.

[X]

Yeah, I can. If they take out some decks for the pipes, three stories still seems VAST and that's only 3 stories. Say that it's 5 stories and closer near the dish. We know they landed in engineering, but we don't know the part. What if engineering doesn't have floors at the normal spacing. The pretty is saved for the saucer where people live and the gritty is in the engineering section where you don't have to be pretty.

At least 5 stories high but it's more the depth I am talking about. In the long shots, you can see waaay back to a far wall that's not even the start of the shuttle deck. I love sci-fi ships, still build models to this day. It's stuff like this that always bugs me in any production where I can't reconcile scale properly.  :confused

that was my main complaint about the Defiant. They didn't know her actual size.

[DontcallmePigboy]

Hey all! This is my first time posting since I just got back fro Star Trek.  It was amazing! The first part when the Kelvin is being attacked and the crew person gets sucked out into space and then everything is silent made me gasp.  I never thought throughout the movie 'that's not Spock or that's not McCoy.'  I didn't know what those six pop-up launchers were on the Kelvin.  Photon launchers? Point defense?  All the catch phrases were there but I don't remember "Beam me up Scotty."  I loved McCoy calling for Nurse Chapel, Scotty's pet Tribble (Don't feed that thing!), The Orion cadet (she was part of the destroyed fleet so I guess she's dead 'sigh')  McCoy repeatedly injecting Kirk (it looks like it hurts!) and Uhura being more then a secretary.  Spock basically telling the Vulcan Science Institute were to stick their acceptance letter.

My friend was annoyed with all the pipes on the Enterprise but it made sense to me.  If they are water distribution, coolant distribution, power conduits you would want them to be easily accessible so they can be changed "on the fly" without having to crawl awkwardly through a jefferies tube.

He also didn't like the Phasers that physically switch from stun to kill and that they are not beam weapons.  "Star Trek is about beam weapons! Either on the ships or in your hand!"  Again it makes more sense to me to have bolts.  Beams take a lot of time and energy, I can get off 10 bolts for your one beam and can do it with half the power.  He said "But the beam will do much more damage."  To which I countered, I only need one bolt to destroy one of Nero's missiles and one bolt to kill a Romulan, your beams would have doomed Spock and Kirk on Nero's ship and would have been unable to destroy all of the missiles headed to Spocks timeship.

Although I liked the physical switch of the phasers, but are there only two setting now?

He also hated all of the warp cores the Enterprise had.  Again I thought this made sense.  If one is going to blow, and you have to eject it, wouldn't it be better to have five more to count on rather than have no warp drive at all?

Some things did bug me.

Aliens were too generic and not on the screen enough.  The alien doctor helping Kirk's mom looked like something that could be done on a home PC.

Kirk's Kobayashi Maru test.  I always thought he did it because it was a point of pride that he didn't like to lose, but he was acting like a cocky jerk.

What they did to Vulcan really shook me.  I mean REALLY shook me.  I had no idea I would be affected so.  In some Trek book I read there was a joke about a news service called the Free Vulcan Gazette which advocated that the Vulcans should be running everything because they were so enlightened, logical and intelligent, and the joke was, "Well the case could be made..." I mean, arguably the cornerstone of the Federation, is gone??!!! Oh, well. At least this is an alternate reality.

I know that in space you can't always report back and get orders so I can see Pike's "on the fly" promotion of Kirk, but afterwards?  He was only just out of the academy!  Oh, well.  It must have been due to his heroics or something.

Otherwise a great movie!  I heard from someone that the next movie will be a remake of a classic episode.  Maybe Mirror Mirror or City on the Edge of Forever or even (I hope) Space Seed.  That would be cool.

[Bryancd]

Yeah, I can. If they take out some decks for the pipes, three stories still seems VAST and that's only 3 stories. Say that it's 5 stories and closer near the dish. We know they landed in engineering, but we don't know the part. What if engineering doesn't have floors at the normal spacing. The pretty is saved for the saucer where people live and the gritty is in the engineering section where you don't have to be pretty.

At least 5 stories high but it's more the depth I am talking about. In the long shots, you can see waaay back to a far wall that's not even the start of the shuttle deck. I love sci-fi ships, still build models to this day. It's stuff like this that always bugs me in any production where I can't reconcile scale properly.  :confused

that was my main complaint about the Defiant. They didn't know her actual size.

Good point, although with the Defiant, I will give them props for the very small corridor and cabins when they did show them, it was a small (sorry Worf!) cramped ship.

[DontcallmePigboy]

Also, no one told me that I would need sunglasses for this movie. :)

[Bryancd]

Also, no one told me that I would need sunglasses for this movie. :)

LOL! Yes, lens flare is the new blue/green over developed transfer look popular a few years ago in movie's. That and the shaky cam! Welcome to the forums!

[Rico]

Welcome Pigboy.  I highly doubt they would do some type of remake episode for the next movie.  I personally would have a very big problem with that idea for many reasons.

[X]

What Rico said. I want to see something new. A war with the Klingons who try to invade at the apparent weakness of the Federation would be nice.

[Bryancd]

Oh, there is just so much potential for the next film to explore. I would love to see some old elements like Klingons, but this is fertile ground to really go where no Trek has gone before!

[Ktrek]

Hi guys! I contributed some of my thoughts about the new movie to Rico's videocast but I thought I would also post here for anyone who may not see it but reads the message boards.

First off let me say that my wife and I saw it twice on Saturday! Not because we wanted to but because right at the end and climax of the film when Scotty ejects the warp core the projector went dark. At first we thought it was intentional and for dramatic effect but then we realized there was a problem. They got it working right at the very final scene with the two Spocks and then the credits rolled. Boy were we pissed! Of all the films I have ever wanted to see why did it have to happen at Star Trek and right at the climax? >:( The theater was good about it though and gave everyone a free pass to see it again as we exited. So my wife and I went back a couple hours later and saw it again. I paid for it though because my back and tailbone hurt from sitting for 5 hours in not so comfortable seats.

In general I have to say that I was very impressed with the film and thought it was amazing! The very opening sequence drew me in immediately. I thought the sacrifice of George Kirk while his wife was giving birth to his son was poignant and moving. From the tone set in the first five minutes I knew then the film was going to be quite good.

I really liked the small cuts from Iowa to Vulcan as we see young Kirk and Spock and then their older selves. It told a story without belaboring anything. I did have one problem with the barroom scene with Kirk when Uhura says that she thought all farm boys did was have sex with animals. Was a reference to bestiality really necessary? I would not want my young son or daughter thinking about and possibly acting out sex with animals because this film plants a seed in a young persons mind. It wasn't funny, in my opinion, and really shows the moral depravity Orci and Kurtzman can stoop to. They seem to love these kind of sexual references in their work. The Transformers film really did not need the masturbation thing in it either but this scene goes more toward outright depravity. Outside of that I have very little problem with the writing.

The cast was mostly superb! I thought Urban nailed McCoy on the head. I was not so impressed with Chris Pine as Kirk though as he reminded me too much in his voice, dialog and mannerisms of Ben Browder's character on SG-1 and I found that slightly distracting. Quinto as Spock was quite wonderful even though he portrays a more emotional Spock than we are used to. Zoe Saldana is quite sexy and lovely to look at on screen. I hope the future films give her a little better part to play. Simon Pegg as Scotty was hilarious. Not really much like the Scotty we know but I can live with that. John Cho was fabulous and I really enjoyed the sword fight scene on the drill platform. And Bruce Greenwood as Pike was outstanding. I hope he is in the next film as well.

The special effects were all well done. The film overall had the look and feel of a Star Trek film.

The film did seem to lack a moral compass though. I can't quite put my finger on what it lacks but even though the film was extremely enjoyable as mindless "entertainment" it really is not very intellectually stimulating, which has always been one of my joys about watching Star Trek.

I would and have recommended the film to anyone. Whether they like or know about Star Trek this film is completely accessible to the uninitiated and yet there is enough Trekisms to keep the average fan happy. Two thumbs way up!

Kevin

[DontcallmePigboy]

Welcome Pigboy.  I highly doubt they would do some type of remake episode for the next movie.  I personally would have a very big problem with that idea for many reasons.

DON'T CALL ME THAT!!    Just kidding.  Thanks.

Maybe not an exact remake.  They'll do it J.J. style.  Just like the crew were "destined" to be put together, even in an alternate timeline, they will be put in similar situations and meet similar characters as the ones we know and love now.

Quinto's Spock might look good in a goatee.

What Rico said. I want to see something new. A war with the Klingons who try to invade at the apparent weakness of the Federation would be nice.

Cool!  And maybe Morgan Freeman can play the Organian that forces a treaty down both sides throats.

Also, no one told me that I would need sunglasses for this movie. :)

LOL! Yes, lens flare is the new blue/green over developed transfer look popular a few years ago in movie's. That and the shaky cam! Welcome to the forums!

Thanks for the welcome.  I pointed this out to one of my friends who just saw it and he said I ruined the movie for him. :-\

[Bryancd]

It's a bit distracting but not THAT bad!

[Ktrek]

Oh, there is just so much potential for the next film to explore. I would love to see some old elements like Klingons, but this is fertile ground to really go where no Trek has gone before!

I too would really like to see the Klingons as the focus of the next film but they need to be more badass and dangerous than they ever have been before!

Kevin

[davekill]

A lot to like and a few nits to pick:

I may be wrong, but I think Paramount studio has closed the door on the "Trek Classic" timeline. If to fill movie theatre seats is the ultimate goal, then the only logical coarse would be to make a product with more mass appeal.
Could be the studio believes that to revisit the original timeline that has run out of gas would be the kiss of death.

I like the sizzle sound of the phaser hit, that's something new - "little balls of light" indeed!

Why does the ship's engine room have visible spinning blades of death? Must have been a nod to Galaxy Quest.

What was the top speed warp speed they achieved - 4? It should fly faster on the next refit when they get rid of those mud guards and fender skirts

Call me old fashioned but, I liked the interior of the Kelvin with the visible antenna on the bridge.

I totally bought in on the crew, of course they are not carbon copies and now they seem a little more human, especially Spock.

The up angled camera shots of Scotty used near the end of the movie where most effective. Made him look a little heavier and I could better see the resemblance to James Doohan.

Oh yeah, and I like this thread, mulling everything over here makes for a better movie experience