"STAR TREK" movie comments/reviews (spoilers)

[Dangelus]

Dan and Mike - you should listen and watch some of the interviews with the writers and JJ.  They confirm what I am saying.  They mention they tried very hard to not just erase everything from the last 40 years.  This is a new, parallel universe.  With some things the same and some different.

Oh yeah I know that is what they said but after watching the film I don't think they should have tried to explain it because it doesn't work. In my opinion it works so much better to just say 'this is how it is', a modern take on Trek without trying to shoehorn in an explanation for the visual technological changes.

Of course it it their film and if they say that Nero is the cause then he is the cause.

[robbo1510]

Saw Star Trek last night with my wife, Alison. We both thought it was excellent. All the cast were great, especially Karl Urban who played a great "Bones" . It was good to hear all the "catch phrases", just to remind us old Trekkies of the original series. But it was still fresh enough to entice non-trek fans to see the movie. We are defefinately going to see it gain, and I might read the comic prequel to so that the "red matter" explaination make more sense. Roll on Trek 2. Also can't wait for this weeks podcast Rico!

[M-5]

I just saw the new movie and it was awesome!  Everyone in the movie did an excellent job! There are so many great things about this movie.  I can't even put into words.  I'm going to have to see it again.  The one thing I can say is that Karl Urban is truly a Star Trek fan.  His protrayal of Dr. McCoy is spot on.  Great movie!  It has moved in to second place on my Star Trek movie list.

[Jen]

I was thought I came to the parallel timeline conclusion on my own as a way to make myself accept the outcome of the movie. I said, "I'm just going to believe this is the timeline where Dianna and Worf are married. :D   Had no idea that JJ laid this out in an interview. Yeah Rico, I agree, some things should have been a little clearer in the movie. I did not know that was the actual case.  I wish it was more evident. I just thought they were just scrapping the history of Trek and Starting over. Again...I did not watch any interviews or read the comics to avoid spoilers.

Oh, I forgot to add this earlier: I loved the red cadet uniforms. They looked cool.  Just by chance I saw this image on a forum today and it made me smile.  The post had nothing to do with Star Trek. :D

[billybob476]

Good old Zap Brannigan.

[RickPeete]

In the prequel comic series, it was explained that the supernova was going to travel into large inhabited areas of Federation space, not just within the Romulan Empire.  Vulcan was going to be in the path of the blast.  So one of the motivations of Spock was to make sure the supernova was contained so that it did not reach Vulcan.

Nero was upset because the Vulcan High Council dragged their feet on approving the mission to save Remus so by the time that cool ship (built by Geordi by the way) was outfitted with the red matter and flown to Romulus, it was too late to save it.  Had the High Council acted more quickly, Spock could have saved both planets.  Nero say the delay as a way of destroying Romulus while preserving Vulcan.

-Rick

[Meds]

Hmm i said parallel universe earlier and i too had not seen any interviews with the writers (still haven't actually) or read the comics, though that is because the sellers here in the UK are still awaiting stock. Mad isn't it. Thinking about it now a good 24 hours later I'm still buzzing from the film and for me, they did the nest thing, get a parallel universe going and that way their is still TOS but we can now have brand new stories without worrying too much about old Trek. I can't wait to go back to the cinema and watch it again this time looking out for even more sneaky back ground stuff.

I'm still waiting for my pre-film comic book and then i'll kow what happened befor the film.

[Meds]

PS, did i say how fracking great this film is. Oh yeah, erm ITS AWESOME!!!!!!

[Bryancd]

Just got back and have recorded my video, so I want to let that speak for me. A very funny observation: I went to the 12:00 noon show at a local theater by myself. There were maybe 20 people there, including a number of middle ages men, alone, who clearly, like me, snuck out of work to see it! LOL!!!!!!

Rico, can you send me that info for your upload server again?

[Rico]

Same info to upload as last time should still work.  It's listed in the member only section.  This thread:  http://www.treksinscifi.com/forum/index.php?topic=5584.0

[X]

Dan and Mike - you should listen and watch some of the interviews with the writers and JJ.  They confirm what I am saying.  They mention they tried very hard to not just erase everything from the last 40 years.  This is a new, parallel universe.  With some things the same and some different.

Oh yeah I know that is what they said but after watching the film I don't think they should have tried to explain it because it doesn't work. In my opinion it works so much better to just say 'this is how it is', a modern take on Trek without trying to shoehorn in an explanation for the visual technological changes.

Of course it it their film and if they say that Nero is the cause then he is the cause.

Just saw it again, and I'm going to fix everything for you.

Nero arrives and nukes George. Starfleet finds the debris and the remains of the missiles. This discovery and reverse engineering allows starfleet to progress in ways and looks that would not have happened were it not for Nero. This new enterprise was designed to be the flagship of the fleet and at the same time, there are a lot of survivors giving their feedback on what Nero's ship looked like and what they saw it do. Starfleet tries to design something that will survive an encounter with a ship like that in the future.

Thus we get an easy explanation for the look change.

If you want more, see Star Trek Enterprise. The look of that ship was changed because of the Enterprise E. Now you add those changes in with the new Romulan threat and you get a new enterprise that really ROCK!

I know people are going to say that there are two timelines now, but that's nothing new. There has always been multiple timelines in the history of trek, we just usually only focus on one of them where there are billions. Spock returning created a new timeline, but the old timeline continues on. There is also a timeline out there in where time travel never existed ever. Infinite diversity in infinite combination.

I'm just curious and selfishly a that, but I want to know how these changes affect me.

[Chrystabel]

I had such a great day yesterday!  We have a student interaction period on Thursday afternoons and I threw a big Star Trek party!  I got the kids a bunch of food and we played Star Trek Scene It!  They wanted it to be me against all of them since they knew I would win...LOL!  We just put it on party play and had fun shouting out the answers.  At 9:40pm, I was sitting in a theatre that only had around 30 people watching the new film...I know that I live in a small town, but COME ON!  Where the heck was everybody?!  I plan on seeing it in IMAX this weekend and hope that it is really crowded.  The good news is that everyone seemed to really enjoy the movie...we were a small but appreciative crowd.

I, too, cried during the opening scene as Kirk sacrificed himself to save his family.  As glad as I was that he got to hear his son cry and got to name him, it was so incredibly heartbreaking.  Thank goodness I had a tissue in my pocket, because I really did not expect to cry during this film!  I did get a little misty again at the dedication to Gene and Majel at the end of the credits.  All that I could think about was that poor Rod is younger than I am and both his parents are gone.  It's very sad, but I digress.

On a related note, I really appreciated that Jim Kirk learned from Spock Prime that his alternate timeline counterpart knew his father.  That one moment seemed to give him solace knowing that his father had lived.  This moment in the film also made it incredibly obvious that we are dealing with an alternate timeline and not a prequel at all.  I avoided ALL spoilers for this movie—no comics, interviews, articles, etc.—so I knew nothing going in.  I thought the parallel universe was completely obvious in the storytelling, so I'm not sure why some people find it confusing. 

Frankly, I hate time travel stories.  They annoy me as being a cheap way to hit reset.  It always seemed like lazy writing to me, but this movie completely works for me!  There are some things in this film that would have really bothered me had it been a "prequel," but it wasn't, so I could go with the flow and enjoy the movie as something completely new yet familiar.

I loved that the secondary cast had more to do in this movie...especially Sulu's fight scene and the fact that he saved Kirk...and then Kirk attempted to save him...and then Chekov saved them both!  I also humbly disagree with those of you who think Pegg's Scotty was over the top.  He is simply capitalizing on the comical elements that were present in our beloved Scotty!  I loved when he was fishing for a compliment after beaming Kirk, Spock and Pike on board.  He had some great lines and I would love to see him featured more in the next film.  I could have done without his little friend showing up on the Enterprise at the end, though.

Okay, this is huge, so I better wrap it up.  Briefly:  I was annoyed when I heard Winona Ryder was in the cast, but she did a good job.  My husband didn't even recognize her.  Loved when Spock called out to his father and Spock Prime turned around and said, "I am not our father."  Could have done without an Orion in Starfleet Academy.  Even with the exposition from his childhood and Sarek's permission, I thought Quinto's Spock was too emotional.  I can live with the Spock/Uhura pairing since it is an alternate universe...but in front of the captain...COME ON!  Seriously!

Okay, I'm done!  For now.

[X]

  I can live with the Spock/Uhura pairing since it is an alternate universe...but in front of the captain...COME ON!  Seriously!

Okay, I'm done!  For now.

the only think I'll disagree with is the in front of the captain line. Spock was Captain and let his XO take over because he wasn't 100% That didn't make Kirk, still an academy kid of higher rank than Spock. Also Spock just lost his mother and did not think that he was coming back. I think kissing your woman goodbye isn't too out of character in the front of a guy who's your XO and you don't like him.

Edit: Also, you have to remember that up until a few minutes before that, Spock did not know that it was allowed for a Vulcan to be in love. He had just received his father's blessing not only to have emotion, but to know that even full vulcans could fall under the sway of love. As a half vulcan, he can only take their word that their emotional control is this great thing.

[wraith1701]

How did everyone feel about Kirk playing The Beastie Boys on his step-dad's car stereo?  Personally, I liked it. :) 

[moyer777]

That would have been a golden oldie.  :)