"STAR TREK" movie comments/reviews (spoilers)

[Bryancd]

Without saying too much about it yet, I think it would have been interesting had they killed off Nimoy's Spock.

[wraith1701]

That would have been a golden oldie.  :)

Yep. I guess Kirk has a taste for the old classics. :)

[wraith1701]

Without saying too much about it yet, I think it would have been interesting had they killed off Nimoy's Spock.

I don't know, man. I got choked up with Spock's mom dying, and she was only on the screen for like 5 seconds.  The death of Spock would have been too much of a downer for me.

[X]

Without saying too much about it yet, I think it would have been interesting had they killed off Nimoy's Spock.

I don't know, man. I got choked up with Spock's mom dying, and she was only on the screen for like 5 seconds.  The death of Spock would have been too much of a downer for me.

Yeah, I don't see anything that would have been gained by offing old Spock. given the way that most stories about the future end, you would have expected him to die. I like that it wasn't a pointless Generations death.

[Bryancd]

Without saying too much about it yet, I think it would have been interesting had they killed off Nimoy's Spock.

I don't know, man. I got choked up with Spock's mom dying, and she was only on the screen for like 5 seconds.  The death of Spock would have been too much of a downer for me.

Yeah, I don't see anything that would have been gained by offing old Spock. given the way that most stories about the future end, you would have expected him to die. I like that it wasn't a pointless Generations death.

I feel that Spock's presence in the entire film was a bit pointless and that his continuing in this timeline is more of a distraction. Let the new characters BE new characters. After the performances I saw today, they deserve it. They don't NEED any connection to the past. It would have been a stronger film as a complete BSG reboot, IMO. I bought into that cast way before Nimoy showed up. This film didn't need ANY connection to TOS at all.

[Highlander]

I just got home from see the movie and I really enjoyed it.  I went with a fellow Trekkie, but I believe that non-trekkies can enjoy this movie too.  Apart from the one liners that fans of TOS series and the movies love, this movie stands alone, meaning that you do not need to know the Star Trek dogma before watching the movie.  As for Nimoy being in the movie at the end.  I believe that he is basically telling the younger Spock that he is getting out of the way, but leaving him with the knowledge that Kirk is a friend that will stick with him to the very end.

[RickPeete]

Without Spock, or someone from the future to make sense of Nero's motivation, this entire storyline would have had to be scraped.  But besides the practical implications of Spock not being in the movie, I think Spock was necessary to provide Kirk with the reasons and motivations to become the captain of the Enterprise and to consider cultivating a relationship with Spock (who he would have likely continued to see as an adversary).

I think this movie was enhanced with Spock Prime's presence.  Could they have written a movie without him? Sure. Would we have gone to see it?  Sure.  Would it have gotten the same amount of press coverage and interest from people? Probably not.  And that interest and media attention is going to play a big part in why this movie will do well at the box office.  And that assures us future movies.

[X]

Without saying too much about it yet, I think it would have been interesting had they killed off Nimoy's Spock.

I don't know, man. I got choked up with Spock's mom dying, and she was only on the screen for like 5 seconds.  The death of Spock would have been too much of a downer for me.

Yeah, I don't see anything that would have been gained by offing old Spock. given the way that most stories about the future end, you would have expected him to die. I like that it wasn't a pointless Generations death.

I feel that Spock's presence in the entire film was a bit pointless and that his continuing in this timeline is more of a distraction. Let the new characters BE new characters. After the performances I saw today, they deserve it. They don't NEED any connection to the past. It would have been a stronger film as a complete BSG reboot, IMO. I bought into that cast way before Nimoy showed up. This film didn't need ANY connection to TOS at all.

Wow! Where is Bryan and what have you done with him? He would never speak that way of TOS Spock.

I think that Spock was needed because he cut though the red tape of drawing Spock and Kirk together. By giving Kirk a hint of the future, he gave him someone to believe in and did the same for Young Spock. He was the egg in a very meaty meatloaf. A binding agent that was necessary to not only reduce cooking time, but ensure moisture ... or something like that. It make the story and the frienship building faster than it would have of he wasn't there.

[JsLady]

I loved it!!!!! I thought McCoy and Scottie were hilarious.  In my mind this really opens up things for more and different stories.  With only about 10,000 vulcans how strong are they going to be and what kind of an influence will they have now.  It going to be interesting to see where we boldy go now. 

[Omra]

I think the new Trek movie is the exact opposite of Star Trek the Motion Picture.

STtMP had a weak story but a beautiful soundtrack.  Star Trek on the other hand had a great story but an anemic soundtrack.  And I must confess I am not a real fan of the new ship...  It doesn't do a thing for me. :sleep

But it was fun, everyone seemed to have a real chemistry on screen.  And it was surprisingly funny, I had not expected that at all.  After enduring Cloverfield I had real trepidations about JJ doing Trek, but I am happy with the outcome.  I look forward to the next two movies.

And I am still holding out hope that this will spark interest in a Star Trek TV series.  Since the Trek universe is now all screwed up thanks to the new alternate timeline writers have free rein to do whatever they wish.  I have always wanted a Trek anthology TV series hosted by Q, now maybe that will be possible. :ohbaby

[Vartok]

I downloaded and played the soundtrack several times before seeing the movie, and I also thought it was less than say a Jerry Goldsmith.  But hearing it with 12000 watts in a full IMAX theatre was tremendously better, since you could hear the music and see the context on the big screen.  Now I think the music really matched.  SOO, I am going to do an entry on the music and Michael Giacchino for Rico's videocast.  I call dibs on that!

After the movie the six of us street neighbors who saw it together had a group hug!  So I guess that counts as a feel good movie.

Wife didn't like the Spock-Uhura connection - I liked it (new directions).

Wondering what the right number of days is before seeing it again?

Vartok

[Bryancd]

Without saying too much about it yet, I think it would have been interesting had they killed off Nimoy's Spock.

I don't know, man. I got choked up with Spock's mom dying, and she was only on the screen for like 5 seconds.  The death of Spock would have been too much of a downer for me.

Yeah, I don't see anything that would have been gained by offing old Spock. given the way that most stories about the future end, you would have expected him to die. I like that it wasn't a pointless Generations death.

I feel that Spock's presence in the entire film was a bit pointless and that his continuing in this timeline is more of a distraction. Let the new characters BE new characters. After the performances I saw today, they deserve it. They don't NEED any connection to the past. It would have been a stronger film as a complete BSG reboot, IMO. I bought into that cast way before Nimoy showed up. This film didn't need ANY connection to TOS at all.

Wow! Where is Bryan and what have you done with him? He would never speak that way of TOS Spock.

I think that Spock was needed because he cut though the red tape of drawing Spock and Kirk together. By giving Kirk a hint of the future, he gave him someone to believe in and did the same for Young Spock. He was the egg in a very meaty meatloaf. A binding agent that was necessary to not only reduce cooking time, but ensure moisture ... or something like that. It make the story and the friendship building faster than it would have of he wasn't there.

LOL! Wait until you hear my video review! The character development which was occurring was perfect, there was no need for a Spock "glue" to bind them. If anything, the conflict between Kirk and Spock was filled with tension and drama. If you are going to reboot a series, and despite all the equivocating being done here in this thread desperately trying to justify the time travel story,  this film really is  a reboot, than let your characters and story rule the day.

[X]

I totally agree that it's a reboot. I also totally disagree that it's a reboot. Go figure. While it has elements that would classify it as a reboot, it has elements that would classify it as a true sequel to previous films and stories.

I think that it's it a reboot that doesn't toss away the old history, but uses it and the rules of the show to create a new direction. We have all seen trek episodes where travel in time changes the current time or the past. What we haven't seen is what happens if the federation wasn't johnny on the spot and there to fix it. The didn't fix it this time and what we now have is a story that has a self correcting timeline. It is an Oroborus. In the future Spock can choose to save the Romulans on time and the prevent Nero coming back. That would also prevent Spock coming back to warn himself and Kirk of the future troubles. So we have a closed timeline that will cycle through old and New TOS until someone decides to jump off the wacky ride. It makes the past and future adventures of the Crew of the ships called Enterprise immortals. Their stories will continue forever with only those outside of the group moving forward in time.

Or something like that.

[Omra]

I am not implying it was bad...  Just that it was 'Program music', in other words it had no legs.  It works well in the background during the movie but is not something you would desire to hear on its own.

I listened to it while at work to prime myself for the movie, but it literally disappeared into the background.  I did not hear anything that reached out and grabbed me until 2/3rds of the way through the soundtrack, it was Nemos Death Experience.  Usually there are recurring themes for characters within a soundtrack but nothing really stood out for me.  And unlike other Trek films no one was leaving the theater afterwards whistling or humming the theme, in fact I doubt anyone can even remember it.

Soundtracks have always been a passion for me because when I was 'a wee lad' the only way to relive a movie was to play the soundtrack and close your eyes.  There was no cable TV or VCR's back then, so I became a collector of soundtracks and really came to admire the work and artistry of some of them.

Good music either makes you 'feel' something, or 'takes' you somewhere.  And an artist can do BOTH.

So while the soundtrack was effective, it did not 'take' me anywhere nor did it make me 'feel' anything.  Now that I have a visual context for it that may change however.  I guess all I am truly saying at this point is I do not envision people going about their daily chores whistling the new Start Trek theme, it is no Indiana Jones, or Harry Potter. :blush

Please don't flame me... ;D

[Vartok]

Truth is I totally agree with you about the music!  It works with the movie, not much as a standalone.  We'll see if I change my mind by Sunday night.  Thing is, Michael Giacchino CAN compose music that is very hummable viz a viz his prior work.  Stay tuned.

V

PS. I don't think it would ever be appropriate to flame anyone over their music likes - it's personal and what you like.  Thankfully there is so much variety to chose from!