"STAR TREK" movie comments/reviews (spoilers)

[Dan M]

Cawley was in the movie.  I didn't see it, but he posted a cameraphone pic that someone took of his appearance.  It's quick.   His hair is slicked back.

[Dan M]

I like the idea they had for Shatner's appearance.  Especially where it would just be his voice over scenes of Chris Pine, I don't think it would've overshadowed the new players.

Not that the movie suffered for lack of The Shat and he probably wouldn't have done it, but it would've been nice.

[Rico]

Took Lynn last night and she really enjoyed it.  She was a bit reluctant to go at first, but she is happy she did.  She liked the new actors a lot and she got almost all the little "inside Trek" lines and references.  She even understood the whole alternate timeline thing.  I think she's a closet geek!

[psikeyhackr]

Also, Ambassador Spock didn't destroy a star. He destroyed a supernova which is a big explosion. The black hole is negative force to the big explosion and thus causes it to stop it's expansion.

A supernova is a BIG STAR EXPLODING.  You cannot separate the explosion from the star.  A normal star is a continuous steady explosion that doesn't come apart because of its huge gravity.  It goes nova because of running out of hydrogen fuel and collapsing due to gravity producing so much pressure it can fuse higher elements.  That is the trouble with pseudo-science fiction, trying to rationalize how it could possibly work in relation to REAL SCIENCE.  The only thing to do is turn the brain off.

Check out the Antares Trilogy for a plausible story involving a nova.

http://3mpub.com/mccollum/sfaz-04g.htm

http://hardsf.org/ReviAntT.htm

psik

[Rico]

This is why it's called Science Fiction - not science.  I mean come on folks - Warp speed, transporters, time travel, etc.  It's FICTION.

[Bryancd]

Well, in all fairness to real "science", we do all do seem ready to accept a lot of the "fiction". Warp speed is a lot to swallow  but the one I also muse over that never seems to bother anyone else is artificial gravity, even on ships as small as shuttle craft. Now that's an impressive leap of technological faith!

[X]

This is why it's called Science Fiction - not science.  I mean come on folks - Warp speed, transporters, time travel, etc.  It's FICTION.

LOL Good point Rico! One my wife made as well when I was discussing the thread with her. transporters, mind melds, Transwarp transporters, warp speed, time travel, artificial gravity (thank bry), and humanoid aliens, but a line gets drawn with Red matter?

[Rico]

Yep - it's the story about the characters, etc. that matters most - at least for me.

[Bryancd]

I'm hoping the book might expand somewhat on what exactly Red Matter is. I don't recall hearing about it ever before in Str Trek lore. I assume it was part of the comic, but I haven't read that yet.

[X]

Also, Ambassador Spock didn't destroy a star. He destroyed a supernova which is a big explosion. The black hole is negative force to the big explosion and thus causes it to stop it's expansion.

A supernova is a BIG STAR EXPLODING.  You cannot separate the explosion from the star.  A normal star is a continuous steady explosion that doesn't come apart because of its huge gravity.  It goes nova because of running out of hydrogen fuel and collapsing due to gravity producing so much pressure it can fuse higher elements.  That is the trouble with pseudo-science fiction, trying to rationalize how it could possibly work in relation to REAL SCIENCE.  The only thing to do is turn the brain off.

Check out the Antares Trilogy for a plausible story involving a nova.

http://3mpub.com/mccollum/sfaz-04g.htm

http://hardsf.org/ReviAntT.htm

psik

This is where you and I differ. I don't see a star as an explosion ... science doesn't either. Exploding is blowing things aparts. Stars produce energy from fusion .. or squeezing things together.

In fact, science calls a star ... not an explosion, but luminous ball of plasma held together by gravity. Nova and super nova are the explosions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Nova

So, as I said before. He destroyed a super nova and not a star. There are vastly different things going on there.

[X]

I'm hoping the book might expand somewhat on what exactly Red Matter is. I don't recall hearing about it ever before in Str Trek lore. I assume it was part of the comic, but I haven't read that yet.

It's a plot device. It's what's left over from Rembaldi's experiments. Like Trillithium, it's something to move the story. It creates singularities. Why? No clue, but I would assume that if you can build your own blackhole, you can use that as a step into building a wormhole. Or copying the drives of the Romulan Birds of Prey. That's another thing that we gloss over. Artificial blackholes powering the Romulan ships.

I decided to let them slide on red matter because they have over 40 years of other things that I've accepted with little explanation.

[Dangelus]

It might have been cool if they had used the Omega particle instead. Would have been a nice tie in.

[Dan M]

Cawley was in the movie.  I didn't see it, but he posted a cameraphone pic that someone took of his appearance.  It's quick.   His hair is slicked back.

Just got back from my second viewing and I saw him this time.

After Kirk ascends to the captaincy, Chekov comes up with an idea to get aboard Nero's vessel.  As Chekov rushes over to show Kirk the plan, he nearly runs into a crewman walking across the bridge in the opposite direction.  That's Cawley.  Blink and you'll miss him.

[X]

Has anyone found R2 yet? He's in the movie too

[Dan M]

Not me, and I was looking for R2.