"STAR TREK" movie comments/reviews (spoilers)

[Omra]

I knew the new Enterprise was bigger than the old one but WTF!?!

[Rico]

Yeah - I saw that too a day or two ago.  Kind of cool - in a way I guess.  Not sure why they wanted it so much bigger though. 

[Feathers]

I wonder how it works when compared against shuttle craft size? We've seen the number they pack in the hanger deck. Would that really be possible with a ship the size of the original.

One of my bug bears of all Trek series has been the scaling of the shuttles against the mother ship. Maybe they've actually calculated it correctly this time.

Any idea how big a crew his ship has?

[Rico]

I think the new ship has about 1000 - 1100 crew.  Remember the Kelvin had about 800.

[Munkyman587]

That is an interesting comparison of the ships.  Maybe after the destruction of the Kelvin, the engineers decided to make more powerful ships?   :P  But it does make sense with the amount of shuttles they seemed to pack in.  The ship really was beautiful, nice bridge... interesting engineering (liked the industrial look, but where was the shot of the warp core?).

[Omra]

Did you do a double take when Pike mentioned that George Kirk had saved 800 lives too?  I sure did, I thought the Kelvin was only a light cruiser since it had a smaller secondary hull and only one warp engine.  So that was my first clue that the scale of things were going to be radically different...

[Dan M]

That image has been dissected on both TrekMovie.com and TrekBBS, and the size is suspect.

[Bryancd]

Hey guy's that scale chart is NOT accurate. The primary hull of the new Enterprise is nearly identical in size to that of the refit from TMP. You can tell by the number of windows in profile view. You can also get a sense of the similar scale in the scene where the shuttle flies over the top and drops down to the shuttle bay. The bay itself has a lot of dimensional tell's as well. If this was for real, the ship would have a crew of 2000+. Also the scale for the Battlestar is way too short, it should be well over 1200 meters. The joker who made this didn't even try to cale down the windows! LOL! The new E is the same size as the old E, no question.

....of course this absurd size would explain the silly, massive Engineering section, but I digress. :)

[Omra]

Thank You, I thought it was a little outrageous... 

I figured where else to get answers but here, and so I posted it.  It just didn't feel right...

I didn't remember seeing any Viper hangerbays in the Enterprise. :D

I mean come on, according to that chart the engines alone are bigger than the old Enterprise!

[Bryancd]

Well, those engines are silly big... ;)
Again, a I have seen the Galactica estimate to be as high as 1400+ meters. That's almost a MILE. No, this is a bit of fantasy. It showed up over at the Replica Prop Forum last week and was dismissed as fan boy none sense. :)

[Bryancd]

I wonder how it works when compared against shuttle craft size? We've seen the number they pack in the hanger deck. Would that really be possible with a ship the size of the original.

One of my bug bears of all Trek series has been the scaling of the shuttles against the mother ship. Maybe they've actually calculated it correctly this time.

Any idea how big a crew his ship has?

The problem there, Mike, is that we see into the shuttle bay in the film. It clearly takes up all the space we see in the tapered back part of the secondary hull. This is why I have such a problem with the interior shots of Engineering. It's inconceivable they could fit all we see in the interior wide shots into the space we see on the exterior shots.   :wallbash:

[Omra]

And how convienient that the water tubes are clear so we could see poor Scotty being whisked away! :laugh:

[Bryancd]

And how convienient that the water tubes are clear so we could see poor Scotty being whisked away! :laugh:

Well, of course! It's the coolant for the blah, blah, blah (convenient set piece for silly action sequence), blah! Go back a few pages in this thread to hear some sweet justifications for what amounts to no more than a lazy plot device!

[X]

I Just looked over the size of the ship on the web and it's 3000 feet

http://www.postmagazine.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=63930E9D02644EC9A127AF67602DA756&nm=E-Newsletters&type=Publishing&mod=Publications::Article&mid=8F3A7027421841978F18BE895F87F791&tier=4&id=C0928902C93D4F8682FB2117F7DD841F

If you compare it to the size of the shuttles, that makes sense.

[Bryancd]

I Just looked over the size of the ship on the web and it's 3000 feet

http://www.postmagazine.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=63930E9D02644EC9A127AF67602DA756&nm=E-Newsletters&type=Publishing&mod=Publications::Article&mid=8F3A7027421841978F18BE895F87F791&tier=4&id=C0928902C93D4F8682FB2117F7DD841F

If you compare it to the size of the shuttles, that makes sense.

So that would make it longer than both the Galaxy Class and the Sovereign Class. I don't think so. I also don't think that JJ had ANY idea how big the Enterprise really is. The refit was just over 1000 feet long. Nothing in the film would indicate that the new ship is 3x as long. Again, the size of a window on a deck is the best tell.