"STAR TREK" movie comments/reviews (spoilers)

[X]

I Just looked over the size of the ship on the web and it's 3000 feet

http://www.postmagazine.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=63930E9D02644EC9A127AF67602DA756&nm=E-Newsletters&type=Publishing&mod=Publications::Article&mid=8F3A7027421841978F18BE895F87F791&tier=4&id=C0928902C93D4F8682FB2117F7DD841F

If you compare it to the size of the shuttles, that makes sense.

So that would make it longer than both the Galaxy Class and the Sovereign Class. I don't think so. I also don't think that JJ had ANY idea how big the Enterprise really is. The refit was just over 1000 feet long. Nothing in the film would indicate that the new ship is 3x as long. Again, the size of a window on a deck is the best tell.

Except for the fact that the guys at ILM designed it with the 2000 foot scale in mind. I think if you figure out the size of the shuttle and compare it to the beauty shot, you'll be at that mark.

Remember bryan, alternate universe.

Also this ship is build AFTER the run into Nero. Surviviors would more than likely tell how big the ship was and want some help.

here is another point of reference. the Kelvin had 800 survivors. If we say that it was the entire crew and compare it to a ship in the other universe, then we would have the Ambassador class which is 525 meters.

A runabout in non-movie is 23 meters and only holds 4 crew.

Maybe in the rush to get it's most powerful ship out, they didn't mind the size. Later on, I think that they could make smaller ships as the technology used becomes smaller.

[Omra]

This is WACK!

According to the Starship Dimension site (Which I love):

Constitution- 289m
Enterprise Refit- 305m
Galaxy- 643m
Sovereign- 685

If the Buzzlightyear Enterprize is now a whopping 914 meters according to ILM that makes it almost as big as the freakin' ANDROMEDA!!!!  That ain't right...   I need a drink...

[X]

Just found something else:

http://www.experience-the-enterprise.com/ww/
The following specifications can be found during the Enterprise Tour:

   Class: Constitution class ship. Type: Heavy Cruiser. Registry: NCC-1701. Designer: W. Matt Jeffries [sic]. Construction Site: Starfleet Division, San Francisco Fleet Yards. Overall Mass: 495,000 metric tonnes. Length: 2500 feet. Saucer Diameter: 1100 feet. Ship Height: 625 feet

In addition, according to the tour, the bridge is located on A Deck and the sickbay on G Deck. The stated crew size is 1100.
[edit] Size

Despite various structural similarities to the original movie Enterprise, multiple sources close to production provide much greater figures:

   * A very precise length of 2379.75 feet (725.35 meters) is stated in a Gizmodo blog entry. A note of thanks is given to "David B. from Bad Robot Productions".

   * ILM model supervisor Bruce Holcomb states that the Enterprise is "2000 feet [600 meters]" long in an interview for Studio Daily.

   * The Post Magazine article 'Star Trek' Returns gives an overall length of "3,000 feet [900 meters]".

   * The following specifications can be found during the Enterprise Tour:
         o Length: 2500 feet [760 meters].
         o Saucer Diameter: 1100 feet [340 meters].
         o Ship Height: 625 feet [190 meters].

[Bryancd]

It's not a question of alternate universes, just post a pic of the fron tof the new Enterprise from the trailer and one from TMP. They are nearly identical in scale. Your post above clearly indicates that no one who is quoted has any idea. It's actually very amusing. :)

[X]

It's not a question of alternate universes, just post a pic of the fron tof the new Enterprise from the trailer and one from TMP. They are nearly identical in scale. Your post above clearly indicates that no one who is quoted has any idea. It's actually very amusing. :)

Except that they are all saying it's massive and larger than the old 1701

I think that you might be confusing look with scale. there is nothing to show the scale of the new one because we don't know the size of things. I'm sure that someone will come along and do some calculations of Kirk looking at the ship versus the distance to the ship and it's reported height at some point.

[Bryancd]

More likely they will realize that they have no consensus an just make one up! Just post a pic, I don't have time right now.

[Omra]

So I am guessing that JJ loves to have things HUGE in his movies, and so he just threw a number at them, and now everyone who works for him is having to scramble around try to make this ridiculously large number seem feasible. 

If the 900 meter number is correct that makes it almost 3 times the size of the Enterprise refit.
If the 600 meter number is correct that makes it over twice the size of the original Enterprise.
If the 725.35 meter number is correct then the pic I posted is correct and the Enterprise is crewed by giants!!!! :jawdrop

[X]

Crewed by giants? Did you notice how high those hallways were?

[Omra]

The windows on the Enterprise are almost the size of missle bays on the Galactica, look at the pic.  The little tiny port that shot out the pod Kirk was in is almost the size of a hanger bay on the Galactica. :unsure

Like I said before 'it is whack'...

[Jen]

Nerd alert. ;)

[wraith1701]

As much as I WANT the new Enterprise to be at least close to the size of the old Connie, I'm afraid that it is most likely a GIGANTI-Prise.  Yesterday, I attended a Sci-Fi model & collecting convention called Wonderfest. One of the guests was John Eaves, who worked in the conceptual design department of JJ's new film. When asked about the size of the new ship, he referred to the Gizmodo size chart listed earlier, and insinuated that the size listed there is close to accurate. 

For better or worse, it seems as though the new Enterprise is about the length of a Trek-Prime Sovereign-Class Starship.  Interviews with folks who work for Bad Robot give numbers ranging from 600 to 900 meters long. 

I'm still trying to wrap my head around this.

Like just about everything else, I guess the new size can be rationalized.  Maybe the run-in with the Narada convinced Starfleet that there was some truly scary sh*t out there in space, and spurred them on to build the ships on a larger scale. 

As for the windows-- Looking at comparisons, If you assume that the windows are the same size as those on a Galaxy or Sovereign class, they match up. 

What I'd really like is for something definitive to be published-- Maybe a cross-section book or something.  As hard as the large size is to swallow, my biggest issue is not having a concrete number to go by.

[cosmonaut]

The windows on the Enterprise are almost the size of missle bays on the Galactica, look at the pic.  The little tiny port that shot out the pod Kirk was in is almost the size of a hanger bay on the Galactica. :unsure

Like I said before 'it is whack'...

Are you comparing to the original Galactica or to the reimagined? The rule of thumb is: Reimagined is about twice as big as original! ;)

[Bryancd]

Here you go, pick your poison!

[cosmonaut]

Can... not... resist...
*blurts-out*
Oh boys, it's not the length, it's diameter and technic that counts!
Sorry, sorry, sorry. sorry, sorry!

[Rico]

I haven't read the book yet, but maybe some of this is cleared up in the novel (which I did just get from Ktrek - thanks Kevin!).