"STAR TREK Into Darkness" - 2013

[ChrisMC]

Saying that though it backs up the point that they could have had a totally new villain and kept the entire story even the two nod scenes (bar changing the name)

Sure, but I would even go so far as to say the films villain was Admiral Marcus, not Kahn.

which is why yelling Khaaaan is a little silly. He didn't damage the Es warp core.

[WillEagle]

Only got to see this once and I am very much looking forward to the Blu-ray! I really enjoyed this and I'm sure it will get multiple views!
And I would not rate it so low on the list. That's kinda crazy.
Also ranking Insurrection as 3rd worst, no way! Love that movie.

[jedijeff]

I always cringe a bit when I see ranking lists, as at the end of the day, everyone has their own favorites and least favorites. I know for myself, I just don't hold Star Trek IV in the high regard that others do. I suspect a different day and a different group in that panel, and you might have seen a different list. Since it was at a Star Trek convention, might have had some rather staunch supporters of the Original Trek Universe. I found the other list they came out for their all time best of crew to even be more head scratching.

[Feathers]

To be honest, I really don't care for lists of rankings. So a particular group of people of a particular day thought that a film was the worst. So what? It doesn't actually affect me or the enjoyment I got from the film. I really don't understand the need to compare everything (and then bash the ones that come out worst). I guess it's humn nature but it's pretty depressing really.

On the S:ID/TWOK comparison, yes they used a couple of lines and references, and yes, I don't personally see the need for it, but to say it's a remake of the same story is a complaint too far in my opinion. At most it's simply a nod to the 'old series' of films.

I think they stuck Khan in there simply to shortcut some of the background story or, more likely, to try and give 'existing' fans an inside edge on the character since we knew more about him than the newbies would. In saying that, I think it worked to a degree but I don't think it was necessary. They still had to provide sufficient background for the newbies anyway so the screen time was required for that and we could have all coped with a completely new character/race under those circumstances.

[Rico]

I agree, lists like this aren't very helpful.  I have enjoyed all the Trek films.  Maybe some a little more than others, but each is unique and fun in it's own way.  I see no need to rank them.

[moyer777]

Am I imagining it or can you download Into Darkness today on iTunes? 

[Jobydrone]

It looks available for purchase on the iTunes store

[Bryancd]

I thought this would be funnier...

http://io9.com/honest-trailers-aims-its-phasers-at-star-trek-into-dark-1174225947

[ChrisMC]

HAHA! Love the bit with old Spock. Here's an imbed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B22Uy7SBe4#t=234

[Ktrek]

I actually like this parody trailer more than the movie! Hilarious!!

Kevin

[Praxis]

Wow.... That ranking is wack...how could STID be worse than Nemesis? And I like Nemesis (besides the bad dune buggy scene, the awkward wedding scene, the never even mentioning Lore, and the hilarious portrayal of starfleet construction methods [rickety ramp secured by one unsteady bolt from antiquity, a phaser rifle that falls apart in your hands]).

[Leighgion]

I actually like this parody trailer more than the movie! Hilarious!!

Kevin

Same here!

I wasn't happy with the new Trek movies from the start, but it wasn't until recently that I hit on a way of articulating the core reason.

You can like or dislike a new version of a franchise, but the problem I have is that "new Trek" isn't really "new." To me they play more like really expensive caricatures of classic Trek; like brainstorming sessions that got budgets but skipped vital writing stages to go straight to shooting.

[Jobydrone]

I may be a super fan, and not your average movie goer, but I've never seen a Star Trek movie I didn't enjoy on some level.  Yes, even Final Frontier, where I found the humor and character moments pure gold in places.  Into Darkness was not the best but is far from the worst on my list.  IMO that list is not even worth the time we've spent discussing it so far.

[X]

I enjoyed the movie. I still don't see how anyone can claim that it's a rip on TWOK. It has a few common characters and that's about it. If it's a remake of anything, it's Space seed and it's not even close to that.

Here is the thing. Like it or not, it's set in a time similar to the original timeline with a lot of changes. I think that they are doing a great job of taking some of the familiar and making something new. John Harrison proved he was a super human in more ways than just a little super strength and that worked for me. he wasn't a villain in this film, he was a prison of war kidnapped and his family held hostage and that worked on so many levels for me. Sure, there are elements that I could have done without, but I appreciate that they didn't ignore transwarp transporting for the sake of convenience. How many times have we seen new things in an episode that are never seen again?

The anti borg fractal, genesis, metaphasic shielding, multi-vector attack mode, enterprise's baby, and the list goes on. this was one of the few times they they actually turned something that saved the day previously into a threat and I like that there was that cause and effect.

[WillEagle]

Honest trailer was very funny. Especially liked the 'he can't protect his crew, or the Enterprise, or downtown San Francisco.'
Still can't wait for this when it comes out Sept. 10.