"STAR TREK Into Darkness" - 2013

[Rico]

That's hard to say.  I personally would prefer them to be separate, I think.  There are pros and cons to both ways.  Also, there really hasn't been much of a direct connection ever between TV series Trek and movie Trek.  TNG films started after the series.  Even back when Paramount was in control of both they didn't overlap much in any way.

[Poodyglitz]

Well, no crap they aren't organized. They couldn't even get the scale of the ship right and thought it would be fine to film in a brewery. Duh.

ROTFL!

Nice to know there's someone out there on the same wavelength. :-D

[billybob476]

Frnakly a new show in the prime timeline with occasional cameos from "TNG era" alums would be pretty cool. The timeframe of Trek Online is really interesting (despite the issues of the game itself).

[Bryancd]

That's hard to say.  I personally would prefer them to be separate, I think.  There are pros and cons to both ways.  Also, there really hasn't been much of a direct connection ever between TV series Trek and movie Trek.  TNG films started after the series.  Even back when Paramount was in control of both they didn't overlap much in any way.

Good point, and while TNG was on TV they had the TOS crew doing movies, so there was no time continuity there either.

[Meds]

I'd like to see a new series of Voyager doing another five year mission. :D

[X]

Again, you guys have to keep in mind that Paramount is the Trek movie keeper and CBS is in charge of any TV Trek we might get.  They have different agendas and interests.  It was also pretty clearly stated that when Enterprise ended that we mostly like wouldn't see any new Trek on TV for probably a decade.  That series ended in 2005.  So, in my view the soonest a new series might pop up is 2014-15.

I get what you're saying, but as far as I remember, CBS owns all of Star Trek and has a license agreement with Paramount for them to make movies. I also know that CBS holds the book rights and they were the ones to pull the "new" Trek Books to keep them from stepping on the toes of the movies. Because it's a license deal, CBS gets to make money from the movies without having to pay anything  for the production. I don't see them rushing to spend money for a tv show that will need a nice budget for it to be successful and given the current state of television viewership.

My prediction is that we will not see a new trek series until after the movie franchise completely wraps any ideas of a new movie. I'm going to say we won't see a new trek series for at least another decade or a decade and a half. I'm projecting 2024 - 2025 at the earliest.

[X]

That's hard to say.  I personally would prefer them to be separate, I think.  There are pros and cons to both ways.  Also, there really hasn't been much of a direct connection ever between TV series Trek and movie Trek.  TNG films started after the series.  Even back when Paramount was in control of both they didn't overlap much in any way.

I want to disagree with you on this part. When TNG movies were going on, they made references to the events on the shows that were on the air and in the same timeline and vice versa. When Voyager ended, they took from those elements to have Janeway in the last TNG movie briefly. Even the reasoning behind insurrection was directly tied to the war storylines generated by DS9.

I think that they were in the same setting and when you see Geordi's new eyes on Voyager. The Borg Queen from the movies returning to Voyager. I can't comment on the new movies because of their unique place in the franchise, but the other movies had a big cause and effect relationship with the tv universe.

[Rico]

There were very minor connections between the movies and the TV series.  And that was only even in the later films.  The first six movies had no connection to what was going on in the TV series.  With regards to the ownership issues of Trek in general, the TV and films are separate.  There is nothing keeping CBS from making a new series, except of course the high cost involved and possible failure of not making their money back.  Trust me, if they thought they could make money off a new series at this point, they would do it.  And Chris,  you really think we are at least 13-14 years away from a new TV version of Trek?  That would give us about a 20 year gap between series.  It will happen sooner than that - easily.  Heck, they are bringing "Dallas" back and "Charlie's Angels."  I think we deserve a new Trek series sooner than 20 years.

[X]

There were very minor connections between the movies and the TV series.  And that was only even in the later films.  The first six movies had no connection to what was going on in the TV series.  With regards to the ownership issues of Trek in general, the TV and films are separate.  There is nothing keeping CBS from making a new series, except of course the high cost involved and possible failure of not making their money back.  Trust me, if they thought they could make money off a new series at this point, they would do it.  And Chris,  you really think we are at least 13-14 years away from a new TV version of Trek?  That would give us about a 20 year gap between series.  It will happen sooner than that - easily.  Heck, they are bringing "Dallas" back and "Charlie's Angels."  I think we deserve a new Trek series sooner than 20 years.

Yeah, I picked 20 years because that's been the cycle time for all of the shows that are making a come back. What was it 30 years between series for the new charlie's angels? 20 years for BSG, 20+ Knightrider and 30+ for Bionic woman. 20 years doesn't seem that big a wait when you compare it to other shows.

[Rico]

I can see your point, but "Star Trek" isn't like those other shows really.  They've had five different series (not counting the animated run).  Even more importantly, there are certainly MANY more Trek fans out there than those other shows.  And with the recent film and next the fan base is even bigger.  We'll see what happens but I think it will be a lot sooner than 20 years.

[WillEagle]

There is a new comic series based on the JJ Trek movie coming out from IDW. And I was wondering what happened to the books that were supposed to come out.

[Poodyglitz]

Which begs the question if / when we do get a new series will it be from a separate continuity to the new movies? To be honest I could live with that. Keep a new TV show in the "prime" universe, whatever time frame they like.

I don't see that happening. If they do a TV series, it's going to be based on the current Trek sensibility (hopefully, minus the sewage treatment plants as filming locations). That's just common business sense. My take is that any new "prime" Trek we get from now on will be from the fan-produced series. For better or worse, the Trek we grew up with is history.

Though it would be interesting to do classic Trek as an anthology series, much like "Twilight Zone" and "Masters of Sci-Fi". Then, you could do self-contained "short stories" based on different eras, different societies, different ships. It would be one way to get back to the sociological message aspect of the franchise. You know, stuff that makes you think.

[Poodyglitz]

I can see your point, but "Star Trek" isn't like those other shows really.  They've had five different series (not counting the animated run).  Even more importantly, there are certainly MANY more Trek fans out there than those other shows.  And with the recent film and next the fan base is even bigger.  We'll see what happens but I think it will be a lot sooner than 20 years.

Within the next five years, I'll bet. But that's only if the movies continue to perform well. I'm anticipating the next film and hope it's a strong sequel. The fact that it's taking so long to get done bodes well. Good to know that they respect it enough to not crank it out to meet a deadline.

[Rico]

Looks like JJ is getting close to deciding on whether he will be back in the director's chair for ST2.  I'm guessing he will be.  It looks like things are finally starting to move on the next movie, which is great news!

http://trekmovie.com/2011/07/27/jj-abrams-close-to-directing-decision-for-star-trek-sequel/

[Rico]

Well, "G.I. Joe II" has now taken the June 29th, 2012 spot by Paramount and bumped Trek out.  So, it is official that it won't be out then, or most likely at all in the summer of 2012.  This opens up either the holidays of 2012 or summer of 2013.  To get a feel for what competition is out there and when, here's a run down of what is coming:

Here is how it is shaping up:

Holiday 2012

Nov. 9: Bond 23, Ouija
Nov. 16: The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn (Part Two)
Nov. 21 (Thanksgiving Wed): 47 Ronin, Rise of the Guardians
Nov. 30: OPEN
Dec. 7: OPEN
Dec. 14: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey
Dec. 21: Hunter Killer, Life of Pi, Lone Ranger
Dec. 25 (Xmas): Django Unchained

Summer 2013

May 3: Iron Man 3
May 10: OPEN (except for comedy Mommy and Me)
May 17: Singularity
May 24 (Mem. Day wkd): Fast & Furious 6
May 31: OPEN
June 7: Turbo
June 14: Man of Steel
June 21: Monsters University
Jun28: R.I.P.D.
July 3 (4th July wkd): Despicable Me 2
July 12: Pacific Rim
July 19: Oblivion
July 26: Thor 2