"STAR TREK Into Darkness" - 2013

[ChrisMC]

It's becoming more than slightly annoying at this point about all the secrecy.  If it's a good movie it shouldn't matter if we know who the villain is and so forth.  Today while I was working in the lab I was trying to figure out how the Klingons figure into this story.  I kept going back to the augment story arc from Enterprise.  Maybe Gary Cumberkhan is a Klingon in disguise to infiltrate Starfleet - but also an augment (or becomes an augment later).  Anyway, just some thoughts.

Just posted over at the RPF supposedly from some twitter traffic out of people at Bad Robot..

[spoiler]Alice Eve's character is confirmed to be Carol Marcus. Part of the movie takes place on Klingon planet Qo'noS./spoiler]

It's still speculation but I put it in the spoiler tags anyway. If it's right then we have the answer and the answer to your Klingon question.

I was fairly certain of that after the trailer....be cool to see where they take that arc.

[Bryancd]

Yeah, I agree.

[X]

Maybe they misspelled it?

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/John_Harriman

or

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Harrison_(Lieutenant)

[Dangelus]

It's becoming more than slightly annoying at this point about all the secrecy.  If it's a good movie it shouldn't matter if we know who the villain is and so forth.  Today while I was working in the lab I was trying to figure out how the Klingons figure into this story.  I kept going back to the augment story arc from Enterprise.  Maybe Gary Cumberkhan is a Klingon in disguise to infiltrate Starfleet - but also an augment (or becomes an augment later).  Anyway, just some thoughts.

Just posted over at the RPF supposedly from some twitter traffic out of people at Bad Robot..

[spoiler]Alice Eve's character is confirmed to be Carol Marcus. Part of the movie takes place on Klingon planet Qo'noS./spoiler]

It's still speculation but I put it in the spoiler tags anyway. If it's right then we have the answer and the answer to your Klingon question.

I was fairly certain of that after the trailer....be cool to see where they take that arc.

Hmmm either we are totally being misled here or they are really stretching credibility here to give us characters and situations we are familiar with. For example that character has absolutely nothing to do with Khan until much later chronologically. The whole Kirkby as Captain is happening much earlier so I think it's a mistake to try and shoehorn alternate versions of stories we are familiar with into this. I'm still hoping for a new story with a new main character but I don't mind seeing legacy characters in the background in less critical roles.

[Bryancd]

Someone just mentioned in the avonos thread that in "Where No man has Gone Before" Gary Mitchell made referendce to a blonde named Carol has set up with Kirk. People often figured that must have been Carol Marcus, so maybe it is Mitchell again! Ahhh!

[Rico]

Someone just mentioned in the avonos thread that in "Where No man has Gone Before" Gary Mitchell made referendce to a blonde named Carol has set up with Kirk. People often figured that must have been Carol Marcus, so maybe it is Mitchell again! Ahhh!

Yeah, I thought about this too awhile ago.  But I'm believing Bob Orci on this one - it isn't Mitchell.

[Bryancd]

Someone over on the RPF also did a phot comparison of the one above and of Mitchell in confinement in the epsisode, it's very similar!

[billybob476]

ONe way or another, I can almost picture JJ giggling as he continues to mess with us :)

[Dangelus]

I am out of ideas. Congrats to JJ though, we are all talking and speculating about this movie more than ever! :)

[WillEagle]

This is giving me a headache! I think I'll just wait and find out when the movie comes out. Anyway it's Arne Darvin.

[billybob476]

I still say it's Harry Mudd.

[X]

The more time that passes, the more I wonder if it really matters. I mean do we really need to know all of these little things? The trailer does a great job of making me want more. I want to see this film, but I could really care less about who the villain is or who is playing what. At the end of the day, these are things that should be explained by actually watching the movie and knowing before hand has little to no chance of enhancing the movie experience.

The longer that this goes on, the more I start to see peeople getting upset because their sense of entitlement is being ignored. Does it really matter if they want the core of the plot to be secret until we see the movie? I don't think that it's a bad thing for them to want us to save out surprise until we're actually in our seats.

It's also not the first movie in even recent decades they want some surprise. Then combine that with the track record of the director and you have your answer. JJ likes to reveal his movies at the theater and if Super 8 or Cloverfield were any indication, it's not changing soon and he seems to have accepted the risk of facing the wrath of angry trek fans for not sharing.

I'm beginning to accept that lack of information is going to be par for the course with any Bad Robot project.

[Bryancd]

Well, it's to be expected, STAR TREK fans are as skilled at ripping apart that which they love as STAR WARS fans. My issue isn't the misdierection, that's been kind of fun, it's I'm not a huge JJ fan and he annoys me.

[Jobydrone]

Maybe they misspelled it?

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/John_Harriman

or

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Harrison_(Lieutenant)

LMFAO...I had no idea that Ferris' buddy had such a well documented carreer in the Trek EU before and after getting Kirk "killed" in Generations.  How funny.

[Bromptonboy]

I have to say I enjoy seeing the hive mind at work, trying to decode all of JJ's intentional (IMHO) 'Obfuscations'.