"STAR TREK Into Darkness" - 2013

[Rico]

But, you have to ask yourself - is it better than no Trek at all?  Of course, I completely respect what you guys are saying.  But, the movie did so much more box office and DVD/Blu-Ray sales than most of the previous films I think we are now on this new path.  I'm actually pretty pumped and excited by it.  This is the main reason....

Trek had sort of turned into this little, geeky club.  There were many that enjoyed it, but it was slowly losing members overall.  A few new people were joining the party, but not enough to cover those leaving it.  "Enterprise" and "Nemesis" showed this very clearly.  They knew they had to shake things up to bring in more Trek lovers.  So, they got a good director/story teller, a new, younger, solid cast and went for it.  My kids & Lynn both really enjoyed the last movie, and they are certainly not big Trek fans.  Now they have a whole new group of fans to keep things going forward.  With most likely at least two more movies with this crew/cast and hopefully a new series.

Kenny always says it's about the ratings.  And this is exactly why they revamped Trek.  So, I guess all I'm pointing out is there were very big reasons for this change.  Hopefully you might come to enjoy it at some point for what it's trying to do.  And that's is to keep Trek alive in the 21st century.

[billybob476]

Agreed. I'm the first to say this Trek is different, but I don't see that as a bad thing. It can go both ways, I mean look what they did with Galactica. They took something essentially silly (original BSG) and made it amazing. With Star Wars the prequels were arguably not as great as the originals. For me this Trek reboot is successful.

As Rico said, it's bringing in new blood and it's a fun ride. Social commentary aside, Trek has always been a fun ride.

[Rico]

Exactly.  There is always a danger when you change something like this that you will lose some fans.  But the question is will they gain more fans than they lose?  I think the answer is certainly a big YES for that.  I think they did an amazing job of bridging the two era's, without ignoring what had come before.  And that's a VERY hard thing to pull off.  I say, warp speed ahead!

[Bryancd]

Perhaps you can just view it as a new, fun Sci-Fi movie series Kenny.  For me at least, it hasn't replaced any of the Trek that has come before or what I loved about it.  It's just a cool new thing that I enjoyed a lot and hope the next one is even more awesome than the first film was.

That's me attitude towards it as well. It's not STAR TREK to me, it's a totally different film franchise that just shares some names and places with the original. It doesn't feel like old TREK, doesn't look like it, doesn't act like it, but that's ok because it's NOT it. As such, I can leave my TREK fandom at the door and just enjoy the story for what it is. I felt the same way about "Enterprise". That barley felt like TREK to me but it was a fun show.

[Dangelus]

My fear in all this is it likely to be a LONG time before we see another Trek TV series, if ever. By going down this route what sort if series could they produce? Most likely it would be set in the alternate universe or it would confuse new fans. Do we want that?

I've always enjoyed the movies but they were always complimentary to the TV series. Star Trek belongs on episodic television in my opinion.

[ElfManDan]

Perhaps you can just view it as a new, fun Sci-Fi movie series Kenny.  For me at least, it hasn't replaced any of the Trek that has come before or what I loved about it.  It's just a cool new thing that I enjoyed a lot and hope the next one is even more awesome than the first film was.

That's me attitude towards it as well. It's not STAR TREK to me, it's a totally different film franchise that just shares some names and places with the original. It doesn't feel like old TREK, doesn't look like it, doesn't act like it, but that's ok because it's NOT it. As such, I can leave my TREK fandom at the door and just enjoy the story for what it is. I felt the same way about "Enterprise". That barley felt like TREK to me but it was a fun show.

I get that and I have to differentiate the two myself in order to enjoy it, cause when I compare it to the older stuff I don't like it, but as it's own thing I enjoy it a lot. Though when it comes down to it I know I'll probably be there opening weekend to see the new film when it releases none the less.

[Meds]

Well TNG wasn't TOS was it, i mean to me it was totally different. I loved the film, to me it was the updated 'today' version of Trek. I can see why some are a bit off with it, I was like that when the new series of Dr Who came on, its never going to beat 'my' Doctor Who but it has brought it back to the public eye bigger than it was before. Same with the new film. Look at all the young kids watching the movie, these are the ones to keep Trek alive.

Anyway we don't know anything about the new film, its not even script finished. Lets wait till we get actual facts and screen shots etc and i bet the excitement will grow. :D

[X]

I love it. Like all good trek after tos, it build on the bones of it's predecessors. They took a staple of the Movie franchise (Epic enemy set to destroy earth: motion pic, voyage home, first contact, nemesis) and made it great.

It's the core of the franchise. None of the other series are really much like their later counter parts, but combining the tos characters with DS9 / Enterprise type battles was like coming home to a new house. It might be new, but it's mine and it doesn't take away memories of the old place.

[X]

My fear in all this is it likely to be a LONG time before we see another Trek TV series, if ever. By going down this route what sort if series could they produce? Most likely it would be set in the alternate universe or it would confuse new fans. Do we want that?

I've always enjoyed the movies but they were always complimentary to the TV series. Star Trek belongs on episodic television in my opinion.

I don't think we'll be getting another series any time soon. As much as I'd like to have one, they are canceling new universe books so as to not confuse the fans. I don't think a new series stands a chance.

If it did stand a chance, it would more than likely be regulated to the CW where it will wither and die.

[Rico]

Label the info below with a big RUMOR stamp.

RUMOR: NO Khan – but a TOS villain

The Khan or no Khan has been one of the biggest subjects of discussion regarding the Star Trek sequel. Now a report in Badass News (from former CHUD editor Devin Faraci) says an "informant close to the production" has confirmed Khan will NOT be in the Star Trek sequel, but the villain will be a known character, quoting the source:

   It's definitely a character that will make fans of TOS excited. Think along the lines of Harry Mudd or Trelane or Gary Mitchell or the Talosians or the Horta. Actually it's one of those that I named.

For now treat this entirely as a rumor. But if true, then it would mean that the team agrees with most Trek fans, and that Khan is not the best choice for their second film.

About the only possible out of this list I could see would be the Talosians.  If done properly, it could lead to some great character stuff.  I could maybe see Trelane as a possibility too.  Time will tell.

source:
http://trekmovie.com/2010/10/25/rumor-no-khan-for-star-trek-sequel-but-known-tos-villain/

[Bryancd]

Agreed, Rico, I think you named the two most likely.  The Horta is to monster of the week and Harry Mudd too much comedy.

[orangegorn]

Aww mannn... no Gorn captain?   :'(

;D

[jonno8339]

I like the idea of a remake of the 2nd pilot. I always like Gary Mitchell as a character and the power he had, remainded me of Q

[moyer777]

and who didn't want the cool silver contacts?

[Rico]

Keep in mind, it's just a RUMOR for now.  I actually think it's maybe a bit of misdirection or one of the above villains will be in it, but not the primary threat.  But that's just a guess.