"Torchwood" - season 4

Redshirt97 · September 07, 2011, 08:45:03 AM

OK gang only one episode of Torchwood Miracle day left. can't wait for the finale.

Geoff G.o.B · September 07, 2011, 11:56:31 AM

Quote from: Redshirt97 on September 07, 2011, 08:45:03 AM
OK gang only one episode of Torchwood Miracle day left. can't wait for the finale.

I thought we had been waiting forever and ever and ever.......ok I'll stop now :wallbash:

Redshirt97 · September 08, 2011, 03:06:27 AM

Quote from: Geoff G.o.B on September 07, 2011, 11:56:31 AM
Quote from: Redshirt97 on September 07, 2011, 08:45:03 AM
OK gang only one episode of Torchwood Miracle day left. can't wait for the finale.

I thought we had been waiting forever and ever and ever.......ok I'll stop now :wallbash:

Yes I was wondering when it would all end too.

X · September 09, 2011, 07:58:48 PM

All I can say is WOW! Not what I expected and I love it!

Scott · September 10, 2011, 10:00:09 PM

I was enjoying it, but like most of you, I had my doubts. The ending blew me away.

[spoiler]So, Jack kept saying his blood wasn't the miracle, yet in the end it absolutely was. After all, Rex is immortal as well. Or at the very least, he was saved just this once.[/spoiler]

Rico · September 11, 2011, 05:01:59 AM

I enjoyed the ending quite a bit.

[spoiler]I really liked how they handled Gwen in this episode and in this whole season. She is a real person with real emotions and real reactions to things. I like how Torchwood has changed her - and not always for the better. How they resolved it all worked for me. And the very end was a nice little twist.[/spoiler]

Fun ride - hope we get a season 5.

Feathers · September 11, 2011, 12:32:44 PM

I really must stop looking at this thread until Thursday. The risk of discovering something to my disadvantage is too great. Must resist!

Rico · September 11, 2011, 01:13:40 PM

Quote from: Feathers on September 11, 2011, 12:32:44 PM
I really must stop looking at this thread until Thursday. The risk of discovering something to my disadvantage is too great. Must resist!

Yes - you must resist. And keep in mind there are reasons we put things inside spoiler buttons. :)

Redshirt97 · September 13, 2011, 04:38:33 AM

Just watched the last episode yesterday. It was great and it had a very surprising ending. I do think that they are setting themselves up for a sequel.

ori-STUDFARM · September 13, 2011, 08:31:03 AM

I thought it all ended a little bit on the corny side tbh. Overall, it has had moments that were quite good and moments that were dreadful. I don't think the story deserved a full 10 episodes

[spoiler]

One thing I didn't particularly like or understand. Why is Rex immortal? I thought Jack was immortal because he is a part of fixed event in the future and can not die until that event. Now it seems he's got magic blood. Does that mean that any blood transfusion he gives makes the recipient immortal? [/spoiler]

I listened to Jim Moon on the Hypnobobs podcast talk about what he would have done to make Torchwood better and had to agree with him and the points he raised. Torchwood is supposed to be a massive underground and clued up operation, bigger than the CIA or anything. We saw the destruction of Torchwood 1 in Doctor Who and Jack explained that Torchwood 2 just mysteriously vanished. Instead of bringing it back as Torchwood just being 2 individuals who now have considerably less tech and resources than the CIA, it would have made sense to bring back Torchwood 2.

That was Jim's opinion and it really made sense to me. It was nice to see Torchwood back, but it was a really wasted opportunity imo

X · September 13, 2011, 08:07:06 PM

To answer your question:

[spoiler]It was answered in the show before it happened. The Blessing has control of live and death through the morphic field of Earth. It took Jack's blood to become immortal before it was hurt and shared that with everyone. When it reverted back, it had the power to still alter the life of others and reached out and saved Rex (who saved it) by making Rex like Jack. Which was what Gwen had asked only moments before it happened ... why didn't it save Ester? We know from Doctor Who that Jack is more than a fixed point in time ... he still ages to some degree. We know how he came back, but we don't know the mechanics. Just as Rose brought Jack back, the Blessing could have mimicked the power for Rex. It obviously had the power to cure Jack from being a fixed point in time. Nothing says that it doesn't have the power to make Rex one. All of the elements are there and the power to do it is clearly established over the course of the series. Chalk it up to something with the power to free Jack and then return him to immortality having the same ability to bestow it on Rex.[/spoiler]

Scott · September 14, 2011, 10:13:19 AM

[spoiler]I see it from a different perspective. I think the transfusion from Jack made Rex become like Jack. He was dying like Jack. So when things went back to normal he went from dying when everyone was immortal to being immortal when everyone was dying.[/spoiler]

ori-STUDFARM · September 14, 2011, 10:44:25 AM

It all just seems a bit too contrived and convenient...and corny :)

Meds · September 15, 2011, 02:04:55 PM

Well just watched the last episode and yeah it was ok but boy what a long winded series. Should not have been ten episodes at all, they could edit that down to a fairly good six episode series.
I agree the ending had some great parts mainly with Gwen but i could see it coming a mile away with the ultimate conclusion and [spoiler]with Rex looking like he may be like Jack was a bit crap really, I mean the thing about Jack is he is unique. Also of course we know what jack becomes. [/spoiler] I don't know do I think judging by this series that a new one should be comissioned? no. Do I think we'll see Jack and Gwen again? Yes.

Rico · September 15, 2011, 02:14:09 PM

I really think the length of the series was them setting some things in place for the future. This story of these "families" doesn't appear to be over. Same thing with some of the new characters. I can appreciate what they did with "Miracle Day"and enjoyed it, but I do still miss the Torchwood of old.