The iPad

[Blackride]

I don't see it in the enterprise at this point. The support costs are too high and the cost too high for what it delivers. They said the same thing for Linux and it's still far from anything Microsoft has made. Don't get me wrong I support Linux servers at work and they have their place but not for everything, same for the iPad.

[KingIsaacLinksr]

Well, unless Microsoft steps up their game, Apple and Linux may overtake them...7 is great and all, but it's not nearly revolutionary enough compared to their competitors. 

King

[Blackride]

Well, unless Microsoft steps up their game, Apple and Linux may overtake them...7 is great and all, but it's not nearly revolutionary enough compared to their competitors.  

King

Microsoft does not have to be revolutionary in the enterprise space in this manner. Enterprises are looking to going back to "green screens". Apple has nothing to do with that. Thin clients are where large enterprises are moving to like our company. Large UCS / VMware implementations with "green screens". Just what I see at every VMware,Microsoft,Gartner and SAN convention we go to.

[Blackride]

BTW I am an owner of multiple Apple products and I love them. Just giving you the opinion of someone that works in the IT industry. Maybe it's a different perspective....maybe not.

[KingIsaacLinksr]

BTW I am an owner of multiple Apple products and I love them. Just giving you the opinion of someone that works in the IT industry. Maybe it's a different perspective....maybe not.

Oh I hear you, I used the wrong word anyway.  I should really have said safe and secure. 

What do you mean by Green Screens anyway?

King

[Bryancd]

I don't see it in the enterprise at this point. The support costs are too high and the cost too high for what it delivers. They said the same thing for Linux and it's still far from anything Microsoft has made. Don't get me wrong I support Linux servers at work and they have their place but not for everything, same for the iPad.

..and Gene was on CNBC this afternoon discussing the very same issue. Enterprise for Apple used to be upwards of 80% biased towards the education market. They track the enterprise meetings Apple schedules and now it's 50/50 corporate/education in regards to the iPad. Trends are your friend and that trend clearly says more business's are looking at iPad regardless of what we all may see in our own corner of the world. Apple is moving into the enterprise space.   

I do believe that cloud computing will be massive and you all need to look a VM Ware, Akami, Citrix, ect. Those companies, along with Apple, are ON FIRE.

[KingIsaacLinksr]

I don't see it in the enterprise at this point. The support costs are too high and the cost too high for what it delivers. They said the same thing for Linux and it's still far from anything Microsoft has made. Don't get me wrong I support Linux servers at work and they have their place but not for everything, same for the iPad.

..and Gene was on CNBC this afternoon discussing the very same issue. Enterprise for Apple used to be upwards of 80% biased towards the education market. They track the enterprise meetings Apple schedules and now it's 50/50 corporate/education in regards to the iPad. Trends are your friend and that trend clearly says more business's are looking at iPad regardless of what we all may see in our own corner of the world. Apple is moving into the enterprise space.

Well, it always has been moving into the enterprise space, there is no denying that, but just how large scale will Apple get?  That's the real question.  We won't find out for some time. 

King

[Bryancd]

I don't see it in the enterprise at this point. The support costs are too high and the cost too high for what it delivers. They said the same thing for Linux and it's still far from anything Microsoft has made. Don't get me wrong I support Linux servers at work and they have their place but not for everything, same for the iPad.

..and Gene was on CNBC this afternoon discussing the very same issue. Enterprise for Apple used to be upwards of 80% biased towards the education market. They track the enterprise meetings Apple schedules and now it's 50/50 corporate/education in regards to the iPad. Trends are your friend and that trend clearly says more business's are looking at iPad regardless of what we all may see in our own corner of the world. Apple is moving into the enterprise space.

Well, it always has been moving into the enterprise space, there is no denying that, but just how large scale will Apple get?  That's the real question.  We won't find out for some time.  

King

What you are failing to realize is that an incremental gain into the space is HUGE form an Apple revenue standpoint in terms of growth. Apple is now the second largest corporation in the S&P my market cap. There's a REASON for that.

Lord, I have spent years on this board trying to educate everyone about Apple as a company. I have no interest in what the tech community thinks is "better" as the investing and money world doesn't. All that matters is WHERE THE MONEY FLOWS. Like the Spice from DUNE. I fell like this with you all sometimes.  :wallbash: That's will be the victor. The only product even close is Android/Google.

[KingIsaacLinksr]

I don't see it in the enterprise at this point. The support costs are too high and the cost too high for what it delivers. They said the same thing for Linux and it's still far from anything Microsoft has made. Don't get me wrong I support Linux servers at work and they have their place but not for everything, same for the iPad.

..and Gene was on CNBC this afternoon discussing the very same issue. Enterprise for Apple used to be upwards of 80% biased towards the education market. They track the enterprise meetings Apple schedules and now it's 50/50 corporate/education in regards to the iPad. Trends are your friend and that trend clearly says more business's are looking at iPad regardless of what we all may see in our own corner of the world. Apple is moving into the enterprise space.

Well, it always has been moving into the enterprise space, there is no denying that, but just how large scale will Apple get?  That's the real question.  We won't find out for some time.  

King

What you are failing to realize is that an incremental gain into the space is HUGE form an Apple revenue standpoint in terms of growth. Apple is now the second largest corporation in the S&P my market cap. There's a REASON for that.

Ahh ok, I see what your saying.  (Wasn't connecting all the dots X_X)  I'll grant you that.  
Btw, just to diverge a bit, but did anyone hear that Facebook's CEO is now richer than Steve Jobs?  That must be some nice advertising he's got behind him.  Too bad for him that a majority of Facebook users use Ad Block to not see any of that.    

King

[Bryancd]

Btw, just to diverge a bit, but did anyone hear that Facebook's CEO is now richer than Steve Jobs?  That must be some nice advertising he's got behind him.  Too bad for him that a majority of Facebook users use Ad Block to not see any of that. 

King

Well, we'll see about that. FB's value is speculative as they have no equity. If they sold shares, they could create real capital, but ask the MySpace guys how they feel now.

[KingIsaacLinksr]

Btw, just to diverge a bit, but did anyone hear that Facebook's CEO is now richer than Steve Jobs?  That must be some nice advertising he's got behind him.  Too bad for him that a majority of Facebook users use Ad Block to not see any of that. 

King

Well, we'll see about that. FB's value is speculative as they have no equity. If they sold shares, they could create real capital, but ask the MySpace guys how they feel now.

Yeah, I just threw it out there, but nothing against Mark, but that is a tad overpaid.  I mean, it's just Facebook. 

Poor Myspace though...they are almost never acknowledged that they exist now. 

King

[Blackride]

I don't see it in the enterprise at this point. The support costs are too high and the cost too high for what it delivers. They said the same thing for Linux and it's still far from anything Microsoft has made. Don't get me wrong I support Linux servers at work and they have their place but not for everything, same for the iPad.

..and Gene was on CNBC this afternoon discussing the very same issue. Enterprise for Apple used to be upwards of 80% biased towards the education market. They track the enterprise meetings Apple schedules and now it's 50/50 corporate/education in regards to the iPad. Trends are your friend and that trend clearly says more business's are looking at iPad regardless of what we all may see in our own corner of the world. Apple is moving into the enterprise space.

Well, it always has been moving into the enterprise space, there is no denying that, but just how large scale will Apple get?  That's the real question.  We won't find out for some time. 

King

What you are failing to realize is that an incremental gain into the space is HUGE form an Apple revenue standpoint in terms of growth. Apple is now the second largest corporation in the S&P my market cap. There's a REASON for that.

Lord, I have spent years on this board trying to educate everyone about Apple as a company. I have no interest in what the tech community thinks is "better" as the investing and money world doesn't. All that matters is WHERE THE MONEY FLOWS. Like the Spice from DUNE. I fell like this with you all sometimes.  :wallbash: That's will be the victor. The only product even close is Android/Google.

If you are talking stocks etc.. That's fine as I don't own Apple. I have an advisor for all that stuff. I don't have near the time as I would need. I am talking as someone in the tech industry that deals with large corporations throughout the states in regards to trends etc..

[Bryancd]

If you are talking stocks etc.. That's fine as I don't own Apple. I have an advisor for all that stuff. I don't have near the time as I would need. I am talking as someone in the tech industry that deals with large corporations throughout the states in regards to trends etc..

Yes, and you should have told him to buy Apple. And no, I am not just talking stocks, I am talking numbers. As iPad sales explode overseas, as millions of units get sold to individuals globally, how long before a CEO decides he wants his employees to have it?. You look at states, I look at the globe. Your trend analysis appears to be flawed. We can have this conversation in 2 years and see where we are. Odds are I will be right. You doubted this previously in this thread and already the facts are proving otherwise.

[Dangelus]

Just chirping in to say I'm really enjoying this debate! :)

[Blackride]

If you are talking stocks etc.. That's fine as I don't own Apple. I have an advisor for all that stuff. I don't have near the time as I would need. I am talking as someone in the tech industry that deals with large corporations throughout the states in regards to trends etc..

Yes, and you should have told him to buy Apple. And no, I am not just talking stocks, I am talking numbers. As iPad sales explode overseas, as millions of units get sold to individuals globally, how long before a CEO decides he wants his employees to have it?. You look at states, I look at the globe. Your trend analysis appears to be flawed. We can have this conversation in 2 years and see where we are. Odds are I will be right. You doubted this previously in this thread and already the facts are proving otherwise.

LOL this is beyond fun getting people wound up when they don't agree with you. Apple is not the only stock in the world and I am doing just fine in the market thank you very much.