Star Trek XI - spoilers!

[Feathers]

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[Bryancd]

I'm afraid fonts aren't even on my radar. A number of things may affect my enjoyment of the film, but fonts aren't one of them.

"Yes, hi, Mr. Feathers? I'm with the Geek Police, I'm afraid you are going to have to come with us for questioning..." ;)

[Feathers]

It's a fair cop, guv! :D

[Bryancd]

"Don't muck us about, sir.." :)

[Meds]

Release the hounds Bryan.

[sheldor]

Ok, riddle me this.  If vulcans have the longer life-span, shouldn't the young spock be a little older/younger then kirk ?

[Rico]

Ok, riddle me this.  If vulcans have the longer life-span, shouldn't the young spock be a little older/younger then kirk ?

Spock does have a longer life span, but was only born about 3 years before Kirk.  And I just checked this part, Zachary Quinto is 31 and Chris Pine (new Kirk) is 28.  So that works out pretty well although they are both playing younger than their age in the new film.

[Bryancd]

Ok, riddle me this.  If vulcans have the longer life-span, shouldn't the young spock be a little older/younger then kirk ?

Spock does have a longer life span, but was only born about 3 years before Kirk.  And I just checked this part, Zachary Quinto is 31 and Chris Pine (new Kirk) is 28.  So that works out pretty well although they are both playing younger than their age in the new film.

That's a bit of revisionist history. Spoke served for 11 years under Pike, so the 3 year difference is questionable.

[Rico]

Ok, riddle me this.  If vulcans have the longer life-span, shouldn't the young spock be a little older/younger then kirk ?

Spock does have a longer life span, but was only born about 3 years before Kirk.  And I just checked this part, Zachary Quinto is 31 and Chris Pine (new Kirk) is 28.  So that works out pretty well although they are both playing younger than their age in the new film.

That's a bit of revisionist history. Spoke served for 11 years under Pike, so the 3 year difference is questionable.

Yes - I'm well aware of that and it still works.  Check out the many sources out there.  Kirk also served (on multiple Starships) prior to becoming Captain of the Enterprise with Spock with him.  They just didn't serve together.

[Bryancd]

Still, it's after TOS revison. Keep in mind, I don't care, but clearly Spock was older than Kirk in TOS by more than 3 years as per what Gene envisioned.

[Bryancd]

Ok, riddle me this.  If vulcans have the longer life-span, shouldn't the young spock be a little older/younger then kirk ?

My point is, as per TOS, this comment is perfectly valid. Lot's of stuff has come since, in TV, books, and movies, that have altered the canon, but in my and Gene's TOS view of canon, Spock is 100% older than Kirk. J.J. can change that, and I am 100% fine with that revision, but Markino is still correct.

[Meds]

What i want to know is didn't Kirk state his age as 35 in the TOS episode when they all get old? If so that would work out right if the TOS series is the first 5 year mission under Kirk. Or am i wrong?

[Rico]

Ok, riddle me this.  If vulcans have the longer life-span, shouldn't the young spock be a little older/younger then kirk ?

My point is, as per TOS, this comment is perfectly valid. Lot's of stuff has come since, in TV, books, and movies, that have altered the canon, but in my and Gene's TOS view of canon, Spock is 100% older than Kirk. J.J. can change that, and I am 100% fine with that revision, but Markino is still correct.

Kirk is only older by a few years - at most.  Shatner & Nimoy are the same age.  Bryan - you need to back up what say.  You can refer to startrek.com, Memory Alpha or other sources.  Some say three years, some it's down to a little as one year.  Where do you get the idea that just because Spock served with Pike that makes him that much older?  Or that because Vulcans live longer that makes him older?  It only matters when they were born.  And Kirk and Spock were born between 1-3 years apart depending on the source.  JJ Abrams changed nothing.  This has been the case for quite awhile.

And Meds I'm pretty sure Kirk says he is 34 years old in "The Deadly Years."  He was the youngest Starship Captain ever at that point in time.  He rose very quickly through the ranks.

[Bryancd]

If you accept that Spock served with Pike for 11 years, it would stand to reason that he would have gone through StarFleet Academy well before Kirk. Assuming Kirk went to the academy as a young man, there would have to be a more sizeable difference in their age. In the late 1960's, before MemoryAlpha or StarTrek.com, Gene Roddenberry had Spock serving on the Enterprise when Kirk was only 23 years old, probably just out of the academy. I have seen timelines that have Spock as much as 17 years older than Kirk. Although it was never directly addressed in TOS, I think Spock was meant to be an older character. A lot of TOS fans feel that way. That's all, it's not a big deal.

[Rico]

Bryan - again so do you think Kirk was doing nothing during those 11 years?  Spock could easily have been just a few years ahead of Kirk and was posted to the Enterprise as his first assignment.  While Kirk first served aboard the Republic and then the Farragut.  During his years on those ships, Spock was with Pike on the Enterprise.  Keep in mind when Kirk takes over command of the Enterprise as Captain, Spock is already in place and becomes his First Officer. It's really pretty simple.