Star Trek XI - spoilers!

Started by spidey27, July 22, 2006, 05:15:41 PM

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Bryancd

Well, we got TNG as a result of the first four films, the last of which, ST IV, manged to bridge to an new audience, despite the fact the ST-TMP may have left some fans a bit empty.

Bryancd

OK, I gotta ask, what's up with this guy?  :blink

Meds

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Meh!!!!!!!! come on people. Oh my whats going on here. You all know I am a massive fan of Doctor Who. Now I'm still not bound over by the new Who stories but i love seeing them. I love sitting down on Saturday putting the Tv on and watching the new Doctor Who. Its not my Who, Its not 1979, its not Tom Baker, Its not Peter Davison, Its not 6 stories per episode BUT ITS NEW DOCTOR WHO. Damn it people you have lived without Star Trek for so long embrace this. I went without Doctor Who visual for 16 years, OK we had the movie in 96 and it wasn't what the old fans wanted but it got the cogs turning, new fans got interested and thus a new series was commissioned. And look now 4 new Doctor Who seasons have come and we are all talking about it. TNG was great I loved it, i liked the films but we all still need a bit of Kirk. Now we have the chance, now we have the the new film, BIG SCREEN, new Trek, new fans, new prospects. Open your eyes and stop living in the 60's because no matter how much you want to pretend you are back there, it aint happening, enjoy this film, embrace this film and welcome the future fans who will keep this franchise going.

Bryancd

I have to really disagree with that Meds. No one is saying this needs to be like TOS. Honest mate, go back and read the posts. I for one am totally willing to accept new Trek with new faces. There are parts of that trailer that are very good, and some that are kinda of lame and contrived, not because it's Trek, just because it's old and cliche. My comments about the first few scenes shown I think are valid criticism. We can be supportive of this and look forward to it as I am, but we don't need to be all fan boy about it. :)

Meds

Nah, having none of it. Are you not excited by this? Are you not aching for new Trek? I'm sorry mate I just don't understand how people can knock a new boot up.

Bryancd

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Quote from: HawkeyeMeds on November 15, 2008, 04:10:22 PM
Nah, having none of it. Are you not excited by this? Are you not aching for new Trek? I'm sorry mate I just don't understand how people can knock a new boot up.

Knocking 2:00 of quick film clips, not knocking the film. And honestly, this feels like something very different from Trek for me and that's ok, but you are saying to toss 40 years of content and 1000+ hours of canon based on 2:00? I'm glad you are happy and excited but you also should consider that it's going to have a lot to live up to and I have seen only part of that so far. To fawn over it "just because it's Trek" is not me. To support it, for sure, but that doesn't mean it's perfect and having watched that trailer and to hear unabashed praise makes no sense to me either. It's ok to love and be a little critical.

Meds

Thats why i used Doctor Who. My 'Passion' started in 1963 and i'm devoted to classic Dr Who, my series ran every year from 1963 to 1989, my series IS the longest running science fiction programme EVER so I know what its like to see something you are passionate about suddenly be turned upside down and re-introduced to a new audience. Yes the TARDIS is still a blue box but its different, it has a new shape, a different color, and the inside is nothing like the one i remember. The Doctor is new but its still the Doctor. Yes i ranted about the fact that this is not what i see as Doctor Who but, and this is the main point, BUT this is NEW Doctor Who, this is for new fans. "OH but what about us faithfull fans of the past 45 YEARS" and do you know what the answer is, the answer is Here is to the NEXT 45 years, here is to the future of a classic TV series brought back to life.

Bryancd

I agree which is why, if you go back and read my post about what I feel this film means potentially for the future, I hope i can capture both new and old support. My criticism isn't based on it not being like TOS Trek, it about it being so ordinary, at least based on what little we have seen. Go back and READ MY POST!!!! :)

Meds

You have wrote 167456 posts on this ;)

Bryancd


Dan M

Quote from: Just X on November 15, 2008, 02:49:37 PM
I enjoyed Nemesis and Enterprise. I saw Nemesis when opened and I knew it was the death knell of the franchise when I had my choice of seats.
I knew Nemesis was the death knell of the franchise when I saw it and realized that it was a giant turd.

Brian, where did you get that picture of the 23rd century cop?

Bryancd

It's a screen grab someone posted in that thread at the RPF that I limked to, they have a bunch of good screen captures.

http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=52597&page=34

Rico

Here's probably the best version of the trailer that is from the unofficial ones up on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FVCXW7o2P4

Dan M

Quote from: Bryancd on November 15, 2008, 03:51:07 PM
OK, I gotta ask, what's up with this guy?  :blink
It's an Iron Man-type helmet shield, including an air filter, and binoculars, I'd guess.

Yeoman Mara

I love this trailer!  I think this movie is going to so much fun!  And that new Kirk - mmmm!    :wub
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