Star Trek XI - spoilers!

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Rico

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Brand new clip (Possible spoilers - but officially released).  It's just keeps getting better!!!

"STAR TREK" - New movie clip

Meds

I saw that clip yesterday on Total Film magazine web site and some people was having a moan about the camera work, the light glare, scotty being too comedic. i pointed out that one, the camera shake gives the scene a touch of action, the glare is because its futuristic and three the scotty character is the comedy part, ( i know this ship like the back of my hand as a prime example)

Bryancd

Quote from: HawkeyeMeds on April 09, 2009, 03:35:56 PM
I saw that clip yesterday on Total Film magazine web site and some people was having a moan about the camera work, the light glare, scotty being too comedic. i pointed out that one, the camera shake gives the scene a touch of action, the glare is because its futuristic and three the scotty character is the comedy part, ( i know this ship like the back of my hand as a prime example)

True, but it is a bit contrived, the camera work that is.

Rico

Bryan - that's JJ Abrams all over the place.  Watch "Alias", "LOST", and "Fringe."  That's his style.  I really like it and don't find it all contrived.  Makes the scenes really work - in my opinion.  But like Meds said - these are just little snippets.  And hand picked too.

Bryancd

Yeah, I didn't care for it on LOST either. I find it a bit distracting, it's a trick, that's why I find it to be contrived. God forbid someone says anything critical about this movie around here! LOL! It's not a big deal, but I mean sheesh!  ::)

Rico

Feel free to be critical.  I just don't agree on this.  That's all.  It's just a matter of taste and opinion really.  I was just pointing out that this is JJ's style.  Like it or not.  He's been doing it for quite awhile.

Bryan - have you ever seen "Mission Impossible 3?"  If not, give it a look sometime.  I think it's actually maybe the best of the bunch and JJ did that one.  But again, that's just my viewpoint.  I'm also a big fan of "Alias" too.

Bryancd

Quote from: Rico on April 09, 2009, 04:39:57 PM
Feel free to be critical.  I just don't agree on this.  That's all.  It's just a matter of taste and opinion really.  I was just pointing out that this is JJ's style.  Like it or not.  He's been doing it for quite awhile.

Bryan - have you ever seen "Mission Impossible 3?"  If not, give it a look sometime.  I think it's actually maybe the best of the bunch and JJ did that one.  But again, that's just my viewpoint.  I'm also a big fan of "Alias" too.

Yes, and I liked it, but I actually liked the original better as I remember them. But I wasn't a huge fan of the franchise. In regards to the clip, another small issue I have is that in a lot of what we have seen, which has been brief, it seems like Starfleet grads are a very unruly, undisciplined bunch with a lot of attitude. They seem to argue and challenge each other a lot more than what we are used to, which is probably why it bugs me, because it's different. But I am ok that this is all new and all different and I will watch it as such, but it is hard to see officers wearing the gold/blue/red and the delta shield being so in your face to each other.

Trekkygeek

I have to agree with Bryan on the glare front. Very off putting and it comes across as quite amateur *Ducks head*
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X

Quote from: Bryancd on April 09, 2009, 04:05:06 PM
Quote from: HawkeyeMeds on April 09, 2009, 03:35:56 PM
I saw that clip yesterday on Total Film magazine web site and some people was having a moan about the camera work, the light glare, scotty being too comedic. i pointed out that one, the camera shake gives the scene a touch of action, the glare is because its futuristic and three the scotty character is the comedy part, ( i know this ship like the back of my hand as a prime example)

True, but it is a bit contrived, the camera work that is.

Camera shaking in a Star Trek movie?? The next thing we're going to find out is they had their actors doing synchronized leaning to portray space turbulence! That would never happen in TOS!!

Oh ... wait ...


Umm ... yeah.

X

Quote from: Bryancd on April 09, 2009, 04:51:06 PM
Quote from: Rico on April 09, 2009, 04:39:57 PM
Feel free to be critical.  I just don't agree on this.  That's all.  It's just a matter of taste and opinion really.  I was just pointing out that this is JJ's style.  Like it or not.  He's been doing it for quite awhile.

Bryan - have you ever seen "Mission Impossible 3?"  If not, give it a look sometime.  I think it's actually maybe the best of the bunch and JJ did that one.  But again, that's just my viewpoint.  I'm also a big fan of "Alias" too.

Yes, and I liked it, but I actually liked the original better as I remember them. But I wasn't a huge fan of the franchise. In regards to the clip, another small issue I have is that in a lot of what we have seen, which has been brief, it seems like Starfleet grads are a very unruly, undisciplined bunch with a lot of attitude. They seem to argue and challenge each other a lot more than what we are used to, which is probably why it bugs me, because it's different. But I am ok that this is all new and all different and I will watch it as such, but it is hard to see officers wearing the gold/blue/red and the delta shield being so in your face to each other.
When I was in the service, I saw a lot of that and it didn't seem that far fetched. If you think about it, you have to be pretty ... intense ... to hope on a starship in that day and age.

Also that whole military verses townie aka college verses townie is something that also rings true to me. I haven't seen anything yet that I can't believe ... including the whole people flying in space part. It all seems very plausible to me.

Rico

Trekkygeek your new avatar scares me!   ;)

Dangelus

Quote from: Rico on April 10, 2009, 08:18:23 AM
Trekkygeek your new avatar scares me!   ;)

It's what he wears on Bank Holidays!  ;)

Bryancd

Quote from: Just X on April 10, 2009, 08:01:58 AM
Quote from: Bryancd on April 09, 2009, 04:51:06 PM
Quote from: Rico on April 09, 2009, 04:39:57 PM
Feel free to be critical.  I just don't agree on this.  That's all.  It's just a matter of taste and opinion really.  I was just pointing out that this is JJ's style.  Like it or not.  He's been doing it for quite awhile.

Bryan - have you ever seen "Mission Impossible 3?"  If not, give it a look sometime.  I think it's actually maybe the best of the bunch and JJ did that one.  But again, that's just my viewpoint.  I'm also a big fan of "Alias" too.

Yes, and I liked it, but I actually liked the original better as I remember them. But I wasn't a huge fan of the franchise. In regards to the clip, another small issue I have is that in a lot of what we have seen, which has been brief, it seems like Starfleet grads are a very unruly, undisciplined bunch with a lot of attitude. They seem to argue and challenge each other a lot more than what we are used to, which is probably why it bugs me, because it's different. But I am ok that this is all new and all different and I will watch it as such, but it is hard to see officers wearing the gold/blue/red and the delta shield being so in your face to each other.
When I was in the service, I saw a lot of that and it didn't seem that far fetched. If you think about it, you have to be pretty ... intense ... to hope on a starship in that day and age.

Also that whole military verses townie aka college verses townie is something that also rings true to me. I haven't seen anything yet that I can't believe ... including the whole people flying in space part. It all seems very plausible to me.

I don't question it's plausibility, I question it's Star Trekability. I like my Starfleet professional. :)
And yes, Tim's avatar is frightening.....and strangely hypnotic....

KingIsaacLinksr

Quote from: Trekkygeek on April 10, 2009, 05:32:09 AM
I have to agree with Bryan on the glare front. Very off putting and it comes across as quite amateur *Ducks head*

I didn't notice the glare until someone mentioned it.   >:(  And the camera shake to me is just natural for JJ and his stuff.  I didn't quite ignore it this time (*cough* because some people keep complaining about it *cough* ;) )   

To me, didn't like it, because I hate seeing clips like this.  Quit releasing stuff!! The movie is less than a month away!!!  We can wait!!!!

lol....anyway, Tim's avatar does freak me out.  *shudder*

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Meds

Yeah Tim, is that you on your avatar, if so, i'm loving it ha ha.