Star Trek XI - spoilers!

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Quote from: Bryancd on April 10, 2009, 10:24:08 AM
Quote from: Just X on April 10, 2009, 08:01:58 AM
Quote from: Bryancd on April 09, 2009, 04:51:06 PM
Quote from: Rico on April 09, 2009, 04:39:57 PM
Feel free to be critical.  I just don't agree on this.  That's all.  It's just a matter of taste and opinion really.  I was just pointing out that this is JJ's style.  Like it or not.  He's been doing it for quite awhile.

Bryan - have you ever seen "Mission Impossible 3?"  If not, give it a look sometime.  I think it's actually maybe the best of the bunch and JJ did that one.  But again, that's just my viewpoint.  I'm also a big fan of "Alias" too.

Yes, and I liked it, but I actually liked the original better as I remember them. But I wasn't a huge fan of the franchise. In regards to the clip, another small issue I have is that in a lot of what we have seen, which has been brief, it seems like Starfleet grads are a very unruly, undisciplined bunch with a lot of attitude. They seem to argue and challenge each other a lot more than what we are used to, which is probably why it bugs me, because it's different. But I am ok that this is all new and all different and I will watch it as such, but it is hard to see officers wearing the gold/blue/red and the delta shield being so in your face to each other.
When I was in the service, I saw a lot of that and it didn't seem that far fetched. If you think about it, you have to be pretty ... intense ... to hope on a starship in that day and age.

Also that whole military verses townie aka college verses townie is something that also rings true to me. I haven't seen anything yet that I can't believe ... including the whole people flying in space part. It all seems very plausible to me.

I don't question it's plausibility, I question it's Star Trekability. I like my Starfleet professional. :)
And yes, Tim's avatar is frightening.....and strangely hypnotic....

Bryan, can I ask you an honest question.

When has Kirk and has crew ever maintained a completely professional status? How many times did they defy orders, break rules, and otherwise rebel? Not just Kirk, in that time of Star Fleet, they were a bit cocky and lawless. It was because of the actions of Kirk's Generation that the prime directive was refined. Star Fleet captains stealing ships, disregarding commands, influencing cultures, and a host of other thing springs from that time. I'm not getting how it's any less Trek than most of the TOS shows. Kirk himself was known to have cheated on the "big test" and fathered a child out of wedlock. Not to mention his racist views of some species (klingons)and his womanizing.

Does a guy that starts a bar fight seem any less Star Fleet or Kirk? Hell even Picard was a cocky mess that started a bar brawl or two in his day.

Rico

Also, you should consider this little tidbit that might be a spoiler - if I'm guessing right.  Read at your own risk based on my thoughts for the movie storyline.  This is just conjecture on my part right now....

[spoiler]The brash, young Kirk in the trailers is NOT the Kirk we have known for years.  This is conjecture, but I think something happens when he is very young.  One trailer has Pike telling Kirk that his father saved his life in what looks like either when he was born or near that time.  So, if that is true Kirk grew up without a father around.  No male influence to keep him in line.  Again, all guess work for me.  I think this hardened him in a way and made him a bit of an outsider and loner.  So he steals old cars, gets into fights, etc.  BUT (and this is a big BUT), he still eventually ends up in Starfleet, meets up with Spock and the rest.  But things become slightly altered due to this one incident.  He still has the command, leadership, and skills all there but they are not quite as refined as they were in the TOS Kirk.  This sets the stage for a new and slightly alternate timeline.  And room to make sequels to the movie.  Again, this is all one big bit of guessing on my part, but it all fits.[/spoiler]

Bryancd

I think that sounds very reasonable, Rico, and a good explanation.

In regards to TOS Kirk and Starfleet vs. what we have seen of the new version, I just don't agree that the character portrayal is the same. The new crew is much more modern and brash IMO, which is to be expected. Doesn't feel the same to me at all, they seem to much like what I see on the WB, sorry. I'm still psyched to see it but I think my criticism is valid.


Rico

This is very cool.  Three clips from the Texas premiere showing of "STAR TREK" earlier this week.  Jen - where were you??


Star Trek World Premiere with Leonard Nimoy Pt 1

Star Trek World Premiere with Leonard Nimoy Pt 2

Star Trek World Premiere with Leonard Nimoy Pt 3

Rico


Feathers

Well I've put my name in the hat for the tickets to the UK premiere that the TV channel Virgin 1 are giving away. I very much doubt I'll win them but if I hadn't entered, I definately wouldn't have won.

Let's see what happens!

I know it's unnusual here but I don't have a podcast of my own.

Geekyfanboy

 Star Trek Coming Earlier on May 7th
Source: Notfabio
April 13, 2009


There's no need to wait until midnight on May 8th to see J.J. Abrams' Star Trek, as ComingSoon.net has learned that shows for the anticipated Paramount release will start at 7pm on May 7th!

Written by Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman, the film stars John Cho, Ben Cross, Bruce Greenwood, Simon Pegg, Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto, Winona Ryder, Zoe Saldana, Karl Urban, Anton Yelchin, Eric Bana and Leonard Nimoy.

Rico

Brand new pictures folks!  Enjoy!!!


Rico

Couple more....


Bryancd

Good to see Scotty's mug of ale on the desk! Uhura is stunning and from what I have read has a very dynamic part in the film. No more,"Hailing frequencies open, Captian"! In the shuttle pic...what's with the steam?! Is it a locomotive?!  :blink  See, it's dumb things like that that make me cringe.

Rico

Bryan - steam is formed when water becomes a gas.  It doesn't mean the shuttle is steam powered.  Maybe Spock just hosed it down!  ;)

Meds

Ah good old Scotty and a tankard of his special brew. Good old Peggy. ;)

X

Doesn't the shuttle steam after coming in hot on a cold humid day?

Bryancd

Quote from: Just X on April 14, 2009, 11:11:12 AM
Doesn't the shuttle steam after coming in hot on a cold humid day?

oh, please... ::)

billybob476

The steam could be from a lot of stuff, venting coolant, re-entry heat, lots of stuff.