Star Trek XI - spoilers!

moyer777 · April 14, 2009, 03:51:51 PM

I personally think that steam (fog machines) are cool. I used to own two of them. I like venting things. :)

Bryancd · April 14, 2009, 04:00:04 PM

Quote from: billybob476 on April 14, 2009, 03:35:17 PM
The steam could be from a lot of stuff, venting coolant, re-entry heat, lots of stuff.

No, it's an overzealous set director looking to make something look all cool and ambiant but instead just looks out of place! Man, are you people on JJ Abrams payroll?! The Rick McCallum's of his production staff?! ;)

billybob476 · April 14, 2009, 04:05:59 PM

Quote from: Bryancd on April 14, 2009, 04:00:04 PM
Quote from: billybob476 on April 14, 2009, 03:35:17 PM
The steam could be from a lot of stuff, venting coolant, re-entry heat, lots of stuff.

No, it's an overzealous set director looking to make something look all cool and ambiant but instead just looks out of place! Man, are you people on JJ Abrams payroll?! The Rick McCallum's of his production staff?! ;)

He's putting my kids through college! :)

(I mean, if I had kids and they were going to college)

Rico · April 14, 2009, 04:06:16 PM

I wish I was on JJ's payroll! Hey - there's an idea!!! :)

Bryancd · April 14, 2009, 04:10:03 PM

:roflmao :roflmao BillyBob and Rico! Rico, this could be a whole new career opportunity! Screw Koelene, you can be JJ's full time sycophant! The ultimate "YES MAN"! :roflmao

Rico · April 14, 2009, 06:00:21 PM

New one. Love it! (Pay me now JJ!)

Not your father's Star Trek tv spot

wraith1701 · April 14, 2009, 06:12:40 PM

Thanks for the video, Rico. I'm looking forward to the film, and I'm excited by how this promises to revitalize Trek & introduce it to a new audience. As long as they don't come out with an ad saying "This Is Not Your Trek", it's all good.

Rico · April 14, 2009, 06:23:16 PM

Just, "Not your father's Star Trek!" Hehe!

Bryancd · April 15, 2009, 05:10:05 AM

Uh, I'm surprised they felt the need to take that direction in the marketing. I think it was doing fine without referencing the previous iterations of Trek. I actually find that tag line a bit insulting as Trek was something I enjoyed with my father. I give this part of the campaign a big thumbs down. :thumbsdown

Rico · April 15, 2009, 05:15:27 AM

They have already started along this path with the other trailer that said, forget everything you know. This has been obvious since the start of all this. I can understand your thoughts Bryan, but again you have to think like the marketing people. Who goes to the movies these days? The vast majority are young people the age of my kids. And both of them are very excited to see the movie. The marketing job is frankly to make as much money as possible. But I still think they will show us a good, Trek movie too.

billybob476 · April 15, 2009, 05:17:20 AM

I don't really have an opinion on this last spot that differs much from the rest. However, one thing I've noticed is it seems like this Trek is getting A LOT more advertising time then previous films. If I saw trailers on TV once or twice before a previous film I considered myself lucky.

Bryancd · April 15, 2009, 05:38:50 AM

Yeah, it doesn't change my general positive feeling about what the final product will be, I just think they had already captured the attention of non-Trek fans and didn't need to so aggressively alienate traditional Trek fans. Asking Trek fans to have an open mind about the new film is different from saying this is NOT the Trek you grew up with, IMO.

X · April 15, 2009, 05:52:38 AM

Quote from: Bryancd on April 15, 2009, 05:38:50 AM
Yeah, it doesn't change my general positive feeling about what the final product will be, I just think they had already captured the attention of non-Trek fans and didn't need to so aggressively alienate traditional Trek fans. Asking Trek fans to have an open mind about the new film is different from saying this is NOT the Trek you grew up with, IMO.

Well it isn't the trek that we grew up with. It's something new. It's truth in advertising. They just made it, so there is pretty much no way that it's my father's Star Trek.

I also don't think of it as alienating the fans. Let's keep it real for a moment. Unless you like Trek, there was a certain stigma attached to going to see one of the movies. Like it or not, the general public doesn't have a sterling view of the masses of Trek fans. For this movie to be successful, it has to convince the general lemming-like masses that this isn't the same product, even if it is. They have to get new butts into the theater seats for the franchise to survive. The only way to do this is to convince them that they won't suddenly find themselves speaking Klingon in costume or other way too skewed views of Trek fans based on the miss-portrayals caused by the media.

billybob476 · April 15, 2009, 05:57:36 AM

...and I guess at the end of the day, this movie could have had ZERO advertising and we all would still be in line on opening day. The ads aren't for us.

Rico · April 15, 2009, 06:02:38 AM

Very true Joe! But Bryan and I have to have something to debate! ;)