Star Trek XI - spoilers!

[Rico]

Just a reminder, for most IMAX theaters, "STAR TREK" is ending it's run there tomorrow night (May 21st). So today and tomorrow may be your last chance to see the movie in IMAX.

JJ Abrams Star Trek IMAX Intro

and if you need a reminder about how much fun the movie is...

Star Trek TV Spot "Break The Rules"

[X]

Just a little note:

While Angels and Demons is being build at the #1 movie in the world on commercials. A little film name Star Trek beat it domestically on Saturday and Sunday.

[billybob476]

I should claim I'm the number one forum poster in the world. Just cuase you say it doesn't make it true. :)

[Rico]

Nice interview with Karl Urban:

Mind Melding with McCoy

[Rico]

Funny stuff...

Burger King's Kingon Defense Academy - Warp-Five Wedgie

[Bryancd]

Someone  of good reput posted this over at the RPF. Now this does make sense to me:

Now HERES an interesting rumor just relayed to me by someone who worked on the film (and shall remain nameless). APPARENTLY the scale issues ARE related to the interior set design specifically Engineering which was one of the last scenes shot. There was no more money for an elaborate engineering set to be built and so JJ was told to make do hence the Brewery. The brewery scenes dictated a size and scale that differed from the INTENDED size of the enterprise which even as as far back as the original trailer with the welders on the saucer indicated a size more in keeping with TMP. It seems this uncertainty from multiple AUTHORIZED sources as to the size of the ship is because they are now saying it is bigger then they had intended it to be but just not sure how much.

[wraith1701]

That's pretty much what I figured.  I've been studying the crap out of the new ship, and comparing it to the Trek-Prime ships.  I picked up the playmates movie-Enterprise a few weeks ago, and even though it is a toy, the proportions are more or less in line with what we see on screen.  When I heard that the ship was supposed to be as big or BIGGER than a Sovereign, I whipped out my Bandai 1/1400 Enterprise E model.  It is about the same length as the Playmates toy.  When I look at the window/viewscreen of the Movie Enterprise, and compare it to the Enterprise E, it becomes apparent that the ships are NOT the same size.  If they were, that would mean that the new Enterprise viewscreen is almost 2 decks high, and wider than the deck below the bridge-deck on the E.  Were talking about a viewscreen roughly the size of two or three movie theater screens laid side-by-side!!!  The new viewscreen is large, but not that large. 

[Ktrek]

My wife and I saw the film again for the third time now. I am still very impressed with it and want to try and see it at least once more before it leaves the theater. One thing I don't get though. If Nero was from the future and has traveled back to the past, knowing that his sun will go supernova in the future why spend energy waiting 25 years to seek revenge on Spock and Vulcan? Why not try and save your planet from it's future? He would have had what? About 125 years to save his planet and his wife and child? Seems like a huge plot hole to me.

Kevin

[X]

My wife and I saw the film again for the third time now. I am still very impressed with it and want to try and see it at least once more before it leaves the theater. One thing I don't get though. If Nero was from the future and has traveled back to the past, knowing that his sun will go supernova in the future why spend energy waiting 25 years to seek revenge on Spock and Vulcan? Why not try and save your planet from it's future? He would have had what? About 125 years to save his planet and his wife and child? Seems like a huge plot hole to me.

Kevin

In the book it said that after he destroyed the threat to the empire, he would save Romulas. Also, it wouldn't be his wife and child. It would be another version of him married to the woman he loves with a kid.

[Rico]

My wife and I saw the film again for the third time now. I am still very impressed with it and want to try and see it at least once more before it leaves the theater. One thing I don't get though. If Nero was from the future and has traveled back to the past, knowing that his sun will go supernova in the future why spend energy waiting 25 years to seek revenge on Spock and Vulcan? Why not try and save your planet from it's future? He would have had what? About 125 years to save his planet and his wife and child? Seems like a huge plot hole to me.

Kevin

The simple answer to me is it is not his Romulus.  This is an alternate universe.

[Bryancd]

My wife and I saw the film again for the third time now. I am still very impressed with it and want to try and see it at least once more before it leaves the theater. One thing I don't get though. If Nero was from the future and has traveled back to the past, knowing that his sun will go supernova in the future why spend energy waiting 25 years to seek revenge on Spock and Vulcan? Why not try and save your planet from it's future? He would have had what? About 125 years to save his planet and his wife and child? Seems like a huge plot hole to me.

Kevin

In the book it said that after he destroyed the threat to the empire, he would save Romulas. Also, it wouldn't be his wife and child. It would be another version of him married to the woman he loves with a kid.

Yeah, the book did a good job addressing that...but it's in the book, not the film, so...

[Ktrek]

My wife and I saw the film again for the third time now. I am still very impressed with it and want to try and see it at least once more before it leaves the theater. One thing I don't get though. If Nero was from the future and has traveled back to the past, knowing that his sun will go supernova in the future why spend energy waiting 25 years to seek revenge on Spock and Vulcan? Why not try and save your planet from it's future? He would have had what? About 125 years to save his planet and his wife and child? Seems like a huge plot hole to me.

Kevin

In the book it said that after he destroyed the threat to the empire, he would save Romulas. Also, it wouldn't be his wife and child. It would be another version of him married to the woman he loves with a kid.

Yeah, the book did a good job addressing that...but it's in the book, not the film, so...

Yea ...I forgot about that in the book! Duh! But yea...the book is not on screen and therefore is not canon.

So really what we have here is an alternate universe and Nero unwilling to save his alternate self.

Kevin

[X]

My wife and I saw the film again for the third time now. I am still very impressed with it and want to try and see it at least once more before it leaves the theater. One thing I don't get though. If Nero was from the future and has traveled back to the past, knowing that his sun will go supernova in the future why spend energy waiting 25 years to seek revenge on Spock and Vulcan? Why not try and save your planet from it's future? He would have had what? About 125 years to save his planet and his wife and child? Seems like a huge plot hole to me.

Kevin

In the book it said that after he destroyed the threat to the empire, he would save Romulas. Also, it wouldn't be his wife and child. It would be another version of him married to the woman he loves with a kid.

Yeah, the book did a good job addressing that...but it's in the book, not the film, so...

Yea ...I forgot about that in the book! Duh! But yea...the book is not on screen and therefore is not canon.

So really what we have here is an alternate universe and Nero unwilling to save his alternate self.

Kevin

No, we just have someone who's motives weren't told on screen

[Bryancd]

If it's not on screen, it's not part of the story told, so not showing his motives is a weak point.

[Rico]

The movie is only two hours, frankly what I wanted to see more of was Kirk and Spock growing up or even at the Academy.