Star Wars: The Clone Wars Season 4

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Bryancd

Yeah, this 4 story arc was riveting. I have never looked forward to an episode of the Clone Wars as much as I did last nights and I wasn't disappointed!

[spoiler]I wasn't sure they would go there and actually show a dark Jedi but I'm glad they did. Add so much new context to the entire fall of the Republic and why the Clones would be willing, or we assume willing, participants in Order 66.[/spoiler]

jedijeff

I thought it was a great series of Episodes, and added a lot to all the clones.

[spoiler]I was glad to see Pong Krell get his just deserts in the end, though part of me wonders how he was able to go so far. The Clones had mentioned that his missions had a high casualty rate, and I would have thought before he even got this mission, that the Jedi would have reviewed his methods on earlier ones. I also wonder if he was placed there by Palpatine, because he knew that Krell had dark leanings. I guess it also really shows how much the Jedi were out of touch with their order, as it was pretty blatant Krell was not following the Jedi code, and none of them ever picked up on it.
A few statements throughout the episodes sort of reaffirmed my thoughts on why they would take order 66 and march with Anakin on the temple. They made reference that Anankin was always at the front of the charge leading them men, so I can see where they have a great Loyalty to him and would follow him. Also the Clone Dogma and his loyalty to the Republic, for Clones like him, I can see where when given order 66, that he would  execute it without question. Even though he went against orders in the end and killed Krell, it was more that Krell had betrayed the Republic then the actions he had put the Clones through, at least that is how I felt. Clones like Rex and 5's, still not sure on them, but feel they have a strong loyalty to Anakin, but also they seem to be breaking from the obedient Clone mold. It was interesting to see that there was a division between the Clones over orders, even though Krell was leading them into no win situations. The end where Krell had the two groups of Clones fighting each other was pretty powerful stuff.[/spoiler]

Rico

Cool set of episodes and great last one for this set.  A few thoughts...

[spoiler]I was glad Krell turned out to be leaning towards joining the Sith and Separatists.  It didn't make sense the way he was leading his men the way he had been and still was a Jedi.  I got the feeling this was the first time he maybe tried to go as far as he did so he was able to get away with it previously.  As far as Order 66, I always felt the clones had been programmed somehow, maybe genetically to obey that order - not just that they wanted to follow Anakin.  At least that was my view on it.[/spoiler]

KingIsaacLinksr

So...

[spoiler]We had that awesome 4 part series of episodes and then we go right back to the same old, same old formula.  Kidnapped was...minorly interesting, but lacked any punch.  And somehow both Ahsoka and Anakin got juiced up force powers all of the sudden.  Then after that episode we had the Slaves of the Republic which was...tbh....dull and predictable.  Sure, the interaction with Anakin and the Queen was...amusing...but overall, my opinion of the series has fallen back to what it was.  I'm bored.  They're using the same old formula again and its just not jiving with me.  I don't know why, but I think the writers just can't let go the old formula of Anakin, Obi-Wan and Ahsoka like they have been using for the past three seasons.  Sneak in, almost do some good, get caught, get the crud beat out of them, escape, confront the bad-guy, go home. 

Really, the next episode is going to end as thus:
Anakin figures out a way of freeing them, enacts a really dangerous plan of doing so, they overthrow the slave trade operation and the characters all go home safe and sound.  The end. 

I would love to be wrong though.  I really would. 

And am I being too harsh? 
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ori-STUDFARM

I think you could be calling it too early. The first part of this story is a pretty much direct retelling of a comic story. A few subtle differences to make it fit the TV show formula rather than the comic.

But I have heard (i forget where) that this story arc is really going to start to show a big shift in Anakin. I think he could have some very dark times coming up....Lets face it, as an ex slave, slavery is something very close to his heart...

[spoiler] I loved the bit where he used severe threatening behaviour to try and obtain information about the slaves. And Ahsoka's reaction to this was very telling. I think this could be the start of her seeing the error in Anakin's methods. [/spoiler]

Maybe even lead to the whole mystery surrounding the fate of Ahsoka.

I really loved these last two episodes. More than any others from this season...

Bryancd

Quote from: KingIsaacLinksr on December 05, 2011, 09:16:48 PM
So...

[spoiler]We had that awesome 4 part series of episodes and then we go right back to the same old, same old formula.  Kidnapped was...minorly interesting, but lacked any punch.  And somehow both Ahsoka and Anakin got juiced up force powers all of the sudden.  Then after that episode we had the Slaves of the Republic which was...tbh....dull and predictable.  Sure, the interaction with Anakin and the Queen was...amusing...but overall, my opinion of the series has fallen back to what it was.  I'm bored.  They're using the same old formula again and its just not jiving with me.  I don't know why, but I think the writers just can't let go the old formula of Anakin, Obi-Wan and Ahsoka like they have been using for the past three seasons.  Sneak in, almost do some good, get caught, get the crud beat out of them, escape, confront the bad-guy, go home. 

Really, the next episode is going to end as thus:
Anakin figures out a way of freeing them, enacts a really dangerous plan of doing so, they overthrow the slave trade operation and the characters all go home safe and sound.  The end. 

I would love to be wrong though.  I really would. 

And am I being too harsh? 
[/spoiler]
King

Wow, could not disagree more. I found both of these new episodes very compelling, especialy "Slaves of the Republic", very dark for the CW. I think this is another terrific arc setting up and don't agree with anything you said....what a shock. :)

KingIsaacLinksr

I guess it's just me then.  It's just I've seen this plot before so it felt like it went through the motions.  Oh well.  Maybe the next episode will pick up. 

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Rico

I really enjoyed the first episode back of the new year picking up on the slave arc.  I enjoyed how this impacted Anakin and his hatred of slavery.  Good stuff!

ChrisMC

Great episode, watched all 3 back to back, I missed it earlier on.

Were those Z-95 headhunters in Plo Koon's squadron?? I was geeking out about them.
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KingIsaacLinksr

Btw, I called it.  The only thing I didn't predict was Dooku showing up to the palace, that twisted the story a little, but the end result was the same.  *ah well*

It was a decent episode, never heard/seen those Z-95s before so I was rather surprised to see something different this time around. 

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Bryancd

I thought it was a very exciting episode, really loved it!

ChrisMC

Quote from: KingIsaacLinksr on January 07, 2012, 01:29:44 PM
Btw, I called it.  The only thing I didn't predict was Dooku showing up to the palace, that twisted the story a little, but the end result was the same.  *ah well*

It was a decent episode, never heard/seen those Z-95s before so I was rather surprised to see something different this time around. 

King

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Z-95

They are described in Star Wars novels as being a precursor to the X-Wing fighter. I also loved the episode.

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