Star Wars: The Clone Wars Season 4

[KingIsaacLinksr]

Btw, I called it.  The only thing I didn't predict was Dooku showing up to the palace, that twisted the story a little, but the end result was the same.  *ah well*

It was a decent episode, never heard/seen those Z-95s before so I was rather surprised to see something different this time around. 

King

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Z-95

They are described in Star Wars novels as being a precursor to the X-Wing fighter. I also loved the episode.

Argh, I forget that I read the X-Wing series and Z-95s crop up from time to time in that series.  Derp.  Thanks for the reminder :)

King

[ChrisMC]

They are desribed as being well old by then. I always pictured this era as being a bit further away time-wise from the OT. Oh well.

[Rico]

Really enjoyed last night's Clone Wars featuring Deathwatch and Ahsoka.  I especially enjoyed the voice of the female member of Deathwatch (Bo-Katan) too.   :wub

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpNMa6pkxZU#

[KingIsaacLinksr]

I think this will be my final season of Star Wars The Clone Wars I watch.  This episode felt really rushed, I was confused about what we were doing on Mandalore and the entire time it just kept rushing rushing and rushing.  Not to mention, a really weak script again.  Also, the episode was really unnecessary.  The kid is just now wanting to take revenge for his mother's death?  And the first people he turns to are the death watch?  I mean, cmon.  Give some justification here.  Give some reasons here. 

I'm just not happy with how this season has turned out.  And I was a big fan of the first three seasons but this one, with the exception of the 4-parter, has just fallen flat every time.

King

[Bryancd]

I am loving this Season. I think the stories and animation just keep getting better and better.

[Rico]

I'm liking it a lot too and like I said above, really enjoyed this recent episode.  I'm a big fan of Ahsoka and feel this season we haven't gotten to see her much.  Glad she got some more time in the spotlight.  My only tiny complaint is one I've had before, I always cringe a little when a Jedi fights a non-force user.  I'd just force push the bad guy away or slam them into a wall.  There - fight over.

[Bryancd]

I'm liking it a lot too and like I said above, really enjoyed this recent episode.  I'm a big fan of Ahsoka and feel this season we haven't gotten to see her much.  Glad she got some more time in the spotlight.  My only tiny complaint is one I've had before, I always cringe a little when a Jedi fights a non-force user.  I'd just force push the bad guy away or slam them into a wall.  There - fight over.

It's funny you mention the Force push, I was re-watching the last two episodes of Season 3 on Blu-Ray last night. You have Ahsoka and the three Jedi younglings fighting the Trandoshians and it seemed sometimes the Force push worked so well but they only used it sparingly. Perhaps it's like in the Jedi Outcast video games where using a strong Force ability drains you and you sort of have to recover before using it again. As an athlete, that makes a lot of sense to me.

[ori-STUDFARM]

I think this will be my final season of Star Wars The Clone Wars I watch.  This episode felt really rushed, I was confused about what we were doing on Mandalore and the entire time it just kept rushing rushing and rushing.  Not to mention, a really weak script again.  Also, the episode was really unnecessary.  The kid is just now wanting to take revenge for his mother's death?  And the first people he turns to are the death watch?  I mean, cmon.  Give some justification here.  Give some reasons here. 

I'm just not happy with how this season has turned out.  And I was a big fan of the first three seasons but this one, with the exception of the 4-parter, has just fallen flat every time.

King

Surprises me to hear this. I think it has gotten better and better as it has gone on. We are now starting to see Anakin walk closer and closer to the line that seperates darkside from the Jedi. Coupled with little glimpses from Ahsoka as he does so...

I really do think the fate of Ahsoka is on the long term plan for the writers and we are inching towards it. Possibly linked with the eventual downfall of Anakin.

Thge worse Clone Wars for me was the first half of Season 3. But the second half more than made up for that with me... I really do think it is getting stronger and stronger as it goes on.

[X]

I'm liking it a lot too and like I said above, really enjoyed this recent episode.  I'm a big fan of Ahsoka and feel this season we haven't gotten to see her much.  Glad she got some more time in the spotlight.  My only tiny complaint is one I've had before, I always cringe a little when a Jedi fights a non-force user.  I'd just force push the bad guy away or slam them into a wall.  There - fight over.

It's writer laziness vs anime solution. There is no way that normal folk should win against a jedi using their powers. However, this means you either need enemies that have the same power are superior forces that will overwhelm their power. Either way and you risk telling the same story. They decide to gimp the Jedi powers so that other things can be a threat to them even if it makes no damned sense. Jedi are only as powerful as the scene allows them to be while remaining vulnerable.

It's really dumb and lazy to just have them forget to use their powers, but on the other hand of the spectrum, you have them being pretty much unstoppable if they used them consistently.

[KingIsaacLinksr]

I'm liking it a lot too and like I said above, really enjoyed this recent episode.  I'm a big fan of Ahsoka and feel this season we haven't gotten to see her much.  Glad she got some more time in the spotlight.  My only tiny complaint is one I've had before, I always cringe a little when a Jedi fights a non-force user.  I'd just force push the bad guy away or slam them into a wall.  There - fight over.

It's writer laziness vs anime solution. There is no way that normal folk should win against a jedi using their powers. However, this means you either need enemies that have the same power are superior forces that will overwhelm their power. Either way and you risk telling the same story. They decide to gimp the Jedi powers so that other things can be a threat to them even if it makes no damned sense. Jedi are only as powerful as the scene allows them to be while remaining vulnerable.

It's really dumb and lazy to just have them forget to use their powers, but on the other hand of the spectrum, you have them being pretty much unstoppable if they used them consistently.

Which is a problem with the Force Unleashed games.  I mean, I think they sent about two giant armies worth of clones, machines and etc and the guy is still alive and kicking.  Heh

King

[Bryancd]

I'm liking it a lot too and like I said above, really enjoyed this recent episode.  I'm a big fan of Ahsoka and feel this season we haven't gotten to see her much.  Glad she got some more time in the spotlight.  My only tiny complaint is one I've had before, I always cringe a little when a Jedi fights a non-force user.  I'd just force push the bad guy away or slam them into a wall.  There - fight over.

It's writer laziness vs anime solution. There is no way that normal folk should win against a jedi using their powers. However, this means you either need enemies that have the same power are superior forces that will overwhelm their power. Either way and you risk telling the same story. They decide to gimp the Jedi powers so that other things can be a threat to them even if it makes no damned sense. Jedi are only as powerful as the scene allows them to be while remaining vulnerable.

It's really dumb and lazy to just have them forget to use their powers, but on the other hand of the spectrum, you have them being pretty much unstoppable if they used them consistently.

I don't see it that way all the time. Yes, they often show Force powers to be amazing but I also think that they have shown using the Force has a cost and can't be called upon all the time. I have said before, as an athlete I can very much appreciate that concept. That to use the Force causes fatigue and you need to recover before drawing strongly upon it again. I don't agree that it's lazy writing.

[ChrisMC]

I'm liking it a lot too and like I said above, really enjoyed this recent episode.  I'm a big fan of Ahsoka and feel this season we haven't gotten to see her much.  Glad she got some more time in the spotlight.  My only tiny complaint is one I've had before, I always cringe a little when a Jedi fights a non-force user.  I'd just force push the bad guy away or slam them into a wall.  There - fight over.

It's writer laziness vs anime solution. There is no way that normal folk should win against a jedi using their powers. However, this means you either need enemies that have the same power are superior forces that will overwhelm their power. Either way and you risk telling the same story. They decide to gimp the Jedi powers so that other things can be a threat to them even if it makes no damned sense. Jedi are only as powerful as the scene allows them to be while remaining vulnerable.

It's really dumb and lazy to just have them forget to use their powers, but on the other hand of the spectrum, you have them being pretty much unstoppable if they used them consistently.

I don't see it that way all the time. Yes, they often show Force powers to be amazing but I also think that they have shown using the Force has a cost and can't be called upon all the time. I have said before, as an athlete I can very much appreciate that concept. That to use the Force causes fatigue and you need to recover before drawing strongly upon it again. I don't agree that it's lazy writing.

I totally agree. I think it's interesting when Jedis are unable to use their Force powers and have to use other means. I think if they were contantly using powers to get out of jams, THAT would be lazy storytelling.

[X]

I'm liking it a lot too and like I said above, really enjoyed this recent episode.  I'm a big fan of Ahsoka and feel this season we haven't gotten to see her much.  Glad she got some more time in the spotlight.  My only tiny complaint is one I've had before, I always cringe a little when a Jedi fights a non-force user.  I'd just force push the bad guy away or slam them into a wall.  There - fight over.

It's writer laziness vs anime solution. There is no way that normal folk should win against a jedi using their powers. However, this means you either need enemies that have the same power are superior forces that will overwhelm their power. Either way and you risk telling the same story. They decide to gimp the Jedi powers so that other things can be a threat to them even if it makes no damned sense. Jedi are only as powerful as the scene allows them to be while remaining vulnerable.

It's really dumb and lazy to just have them forget to use their powers, but on the other hand of the spectrum, you have them being pretty much unstoppable if they used them consistently.

I don't see it that way all the time. Yes, they often show Force powers to be amazing but I also think that they have shown using the Force has a cost and can't be called upon all the time. I have said before, as an athlete I can very much appreciate that concept. That to use the Force causes fatigue and you need to recover before drawing strongly upon it again. I don't agree that it's lazy writing.

Bryan, where are you getting this? Everything on screen in the movies and on the show doesn't show them winded at all. Being an athlete is a poor analogy for this because it's not about muscle, it's about the Force. We have seen them struggle to use it when they have been beaten about, but unless you're playing a video game, there isn't some sort of recharge needed.

I haven't seen anyone on screen tired from using the force yet. In fact, there are many examples of them using the force to refresh their tired bodies and minds in the other fiction. Maybe there are two types of force .

[ChrisMC]

I'm liking it a lot too and like I said above, really enjoyed this recent episode.  I'm a big fan of Ahsoka and feel this season we haven't gotten to see her much.  Glad she got some more time in the spotlight.  My only tiny complaint is one I've had before, I always cringe a little when a Jedi fights a non-force user.  I'd just force push the bad guy away or slam them into a wall.  There - fight over.

It's writer laziness vs anime solution. There is no way that normal folk should win against a jedi using their powers. However, this means you either need enemies that have the same power are superior forces that will overwhelm their power. Either way and you risk telling the same story. They decide to gimp the Jedi powers so that other things can be a threat to them even if it makes no damned sense. Jedi are only as powerful as the scene allows them to be while remaining vulnerable.

It's really dumb and lazy to just have them forget to use their powers, but on the other hand of the spectrum, you have them being pretty much unstoppable if they used them consistently.

I don't see it that way all the time. Yes, they often show Force powers to be amazing but I also think that they have shown using the Force has a cost and can't be called upon all the time. I have said before, as an athlete I can very much appreciate that concept. That to use the Force causes fatigue and you need to recover before drawing strongly upon it again. I don't agree that it's lazy writing.

Bryan, where are you getting this? Everything on screen in the movies and on the show doesn't show them winded at all. Being an athlete is a poor analogy for this because it's not about muscle, it's about the Force. We have seen them struggle to use it when they have been beaten about, but unless you're playing a video game, there isn't some sort of recharge needed.

I haven't seen anyone on screen tired from using the force yet. In fact, there are many examples of them using the force to refresh their tired bodies and minds in the other fiction. Maybe there are two types of force .

What about when Yoda lifted the X-Wing in ESB? And when he had to hold up the pylon from crushing Obi-Wan and Anakin in Episode 2? MAybe it's just Yoda.

[X]

I'm liking it a lot too and like I said above, really enjoyed this recent episode.  I'm a big fan of Ahsoka and feel this season we haven't gotten to see her much.  Glad she got some more time in the spotlight.  My only tiny complaint is one I've had before, I always cringe a little when a Jedi fights a non-force user.  I'd just force push the bad guy away or slam them into a wall.  There - fight over.

It's writer laziness vs anime solution. There is no way that normal folk should win against a jedi using their powers. However, this means you either need enemies that have the same power are superior forces that will overwhelm their power. Either way and you risk telling the same story. They decide to gimp the Jedi powers so that other things can be a threat to them even if it makes no damned sense. Jedi are only as powerful as the scene allows them to be while remaining vulnerable.

It's really dumb and lazy to just have them forget to use their powers, but on the other hand of the spectrum, you have them being pretty much unstoppable if they used them consistently.

I don't see it that way all the time. Yes, they often show Force powers to be amazing but I also think that they have shown using the Force has a cost and can't be called upon all the time. I have said before, as an athlete I can very much appreciate that concept. That to use the Force causes fatigue and you need to recover before drawing strongly upon it again. I don't agree that it's lazy writing.

Bryan, where are you getting this? Everything on screen in the movies and on the show doesn't show them winded at all. Being an athlete is a poor analogy for this because it's not about muscle, it's about the Force. We have seen them struggle to use it when they have been beaten about, but unless you're playing a video game, there isn't some sort of recharge needed.

I haven't seen anyone on screen tired from using the force yet. In fact, there are many examples of them using the force to refresh their tired bodies and minds in the other fiction. Maybe there are two types of force .

What about when Yoda lifted the X-Wing in ESB? And when he had to hold up the pylon from crushing Obi-Wan and Anakin in Episode 2? MAybe it's just Yoda.

When he did both of those, he wasn't tired. In ESB, he was fine and in AotC, he went back to hobbling down the road. he had just did a bunch of flps, caught force lighting, and played catch with Dooku. Sure there was effort while doing it, but there wasn't a show of being tired afterwards.

He wasn't winded, out of breath, or anything to suggest that his use of the force was now on empty.